Dumping the clutch

Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:46 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

Originally Posted by killswitch12283
wtf?
you are not going to be 2-3 inches off the ground, if you are your draggin your brake and thats not right, you need to poke or tap your brake, you'll get into a rythme, dont use constant pressure, thats not the right way to do it. And you might need throttle while learning but riding idle means pokin brake to keep you from passin bp. Like sooooo........ in that pic i have powers big ol ****** 12 bar and im still aways from the ground
and since my hand isnt on throttle, im obviously at bp


ohhhh and by the way, that is soooo a zx10 front end
I think gearing makes a big difference on how much torque the bike has on idle

stock gears = less torque on idle = bike needs to be higher to catch idle

doesn't that sound right??

for example.....my f3 with idle turned up and 62t i could take off with no throttle just clutch. if i try that on my stock geared f4i i stall every time.

oh and i've had my f4i higher than your pic killswitch consistently and i haven't caught idle once yet.
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

Yeah I don't know what I was thinking when I said 2-3. But I still say go a little higher. I couldnt go a whole lot further past bp with my 62t, F4i, with the Idle at 4500. Different bike and different body position probably has a lot to do with it too.
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 03:28 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

Originally Posted by CRA$H AZ
I think gearing makes a big difference on how much torque the bike has on idle

stock gears = less torque on idle = bike needs to be higher to catch idle

doesn't that sound right??

for example.....my f3 with idle turned up and 62t i could take off with no throttle just clutch. if i try that on my stock geared f4i i stall every time.

oh and i've had my f4i higher than your pic killswitch consistently and i haven't caught idle once yet.
crash........go ride lol

moto........your right but its not that different, bp is pretty damn close on every bike, he just needs to understand not to go past bp and ride brake, thats bad habits, needs to stay right in front of bp and let idle try to push him into bp so he can poke, not ride, thats all im sayin
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 04:00 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

I got to watch some videos of me for the first time today.

As I thought, my problem is pretty clear. I clutch it from a stop too low (about 50 degrees) then start rolling off the power slowly as it climbs to BP.
Since I can watch it in slo-mo, I see that my forks do infact go a bit past horizontal while I wheelie. That's usually followed by over braking.

This whole process is taking me too long to do, and I end up at about 15mph by the time I'm at or going past BP. Then I do what Killswitch says not to... I drag on the brake past bp.

All that seems to do is keep me at that speed, or maybe slow me down a little... but I'm still on the throttle some.

When I focus on not using the brake other than to catch BP I usuall get them slower by throttle adjustments rather than brake. All the ones that have felt close to being right have had little brake input involved.

I think the fear factor still has a say. When I do a good launch straight up to BP and catch it with my brake... I usually go "ooh ****" and over brake as I shut the throttle down and end up back to earth.

I guess I need to go "ooh ****" shut the throttle down... and leave the brake alone lol.

Launching it fast to BP is easy, but friggin hard at the same time.

Watching myself on video helps tho.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 04:08 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

"Just hike your skirt up and do it!"

the words that got me over the edge. worst case you wreck bro.. gonna happen a bunch so may as well get used to it!
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

Originally Posted by killswitch12283
crash........go ride lol

moto........your right but its not that different, bp is pretty damn close on every bike, he just needs to understand not to go past bp and ride brake, thats bad habits, needs to stay right in front of bp and let idle try to push him into bp so he can poke, not ride, thats all im sayin
i dunno it was late i was a lil buzzed and it still makes sense to me

not saying i have any real clue as to what i'm talking about though


but i have been told gearing will help me learn idle
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

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i dunno it was late i was a lil buzzed and it still makes sense to me

not saying i have any real clue as to what i'm talking about though


but i have been told gearing will help me learn idle
HAHA your good man, i always enjoy hearin from ya haha, you my boy blue!:YEAH
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

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HAHA your good man, i always enjoy hearin from ya haha, you my boy blue!:YEAH
thats what i like to hear green!!


i feel like there's a honda commercial in my head (i wanna ride, i wanna ride, i wanna ride)
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

haha, you need to be on here less and on the seat more bra haha
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

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haha, you need to be on here less and on the seat more bra haha
nobody can ride tomorrow

hoping lin can he's the only i haven't talked to yet
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

your riding with az?

And you still aint got idle???

Ima call half and get him to get your *** in gear, wtf haha ive only been riding a few months man, you need to step up dude, where yur wigg at son?
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

Originally Posted by killswitch12283
your riding with az?

And you still aint got idle???

Ima call half and get him to get your *** in gear, wtf haha ive only been riding a few months man, you need to step up dude, where yur wigg at son?
it got split on the concrete and a squid ate it for lunch.

and all of az can't be murdering it i had to come in a drop an ounce of squid into the hot sauce.

half said he was gonna give me secret ninja lesson's though. and number 2 has helped me alot.
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:24 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

haha good, hear, drop almost all your pressure in rear tire, turn idle up to like 4 grand, and rip it hard and then catch it bro, that easy, low pressure equals less left to right, you only gotta worry about your brake playa, just spend like a day clutchin it up hard, dont chase at all, just clutch it, if ya get it cool if not put it back down

and i mean low low pressure, ride on your ****** rim
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

Originally Posted by killswitch12283
haha good, hear, drop almost all your pressure in rear tire, turn idle up to like 4 grand, and rip it hard and then catch it bro, that easy, low pressure equals less left to right, you only gotta worry about your brake playa, just spend like a day clutchin it up hard, dont chase at all, just clutch it, if ya get it cool if not put it back down

and i mean low low pressure, ride on your ****** rim
i don't really have any trouble with side to side stag so is tire pressure REALLY gonna make a difference?

and yes its time to try turning up the idle cuz its at about 2 g right now.

oh and btw i had a leak in my old tire and it got down to about 5 lbs in the rear one day at the spot and i could barely get the front off the ground. put air in it and i was back to normal clutching it up just fine

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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

Originally Posted by CRA$H AZ
i don't really have any trouble with side to side stag so is tire pressure REALLY gonna make a difference?

and yes its time to try turning up the idle cuz its at about 2 g right now.

oh and btw i had a leak in my old tire and it got down to about 5 lbs in the rear one day at the spot and i could barely get the front off the ground. put air in it and i was back to normal clutching it up just fine

dude, everyone has but just try mine, empty that **** lowww, and turn your idle up high, at least 3500 and goose that ****, if you learned at 2g you would be better off but right now you need to get passed that basic hump, please just try and let me know:YEAH
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

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dude, everyone has but just try mine, empty that **** lowww, and turn your idle up high, at least 3500 and goose that ****, if you learned at 2g you would be better off but right now you need to get passed that basic hump, please just try and let me know:YEAH
will do. t-dub has a compressor anyways so if i doesn't work i can air it back up but i will try it.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 12:58 AM
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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Re: Dumping the clutch

Originally Posted by killswitch12283
haha good, hear, drop almost all your pressure in rear tire, turn idle up to like 4 grand, and rip it hard and then catch it bro, that easy, low pressure equals less left to right, you only gotta worry about your brake playa, just spend like a day clutchin it up hard, dont chase at all, just clutch it, if ya get it cool if not put it back down

and i mean low low pressure, ride on your ****** rim
Groovy. Will try... well, not all the way to my newly powder coated rim that took 2 months to get done lol... but I'll run low. I've been at 28 psi front and rear for a while.

I do notice that I tend to drift going one direction at the spot. Not sure if it's just the slope of the lot, or if I'm unintentionally causing it to drift right... but the listing sure does mess me up.

Here is from yesterday. Crappy quality pic from a short video screen shot, but any comments on it?



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Re: Dumping the clutch

quit being a ***** and come to the spot when everyone is riding and you will get that **** son..

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