i am just learning too. took my stuntbike out for the first time yesterday to get used to the moose easy pull clutch and +15 ???rear sprocket. I need to grow a set and remember how i did it on a dirtbike 20 years ago!

I can get it up pretty quick with the sprocket but i chicken out when i get it up. its gonna take some getting used to.

 

The launching from just about dead stop to near bp is feeling a lot more natural now.

On my last session I concentrated on just keeping my foot on top of the brake lever, but quit relying on it so much catch the BP. The bike has almost retarded amounts of engine braking power I learned.

I'm a brake *****, and am working on moving past this.

Thanks for the advice there guys.

Tomorrows session will focus on getting them to BP more quickly, so I can roll the throttle off and keep em slower hopefully.

- Pixel -

 

sorry to thread jack but here goes

im working on slow speed stuff but i cant get to bp from a dead stop
i get going at about 5mph and then bring it up to bp
also im only 5'8" ish so i dont comfortably flat foot it...contemplating lowering it an inch or two but dont want to have to relearn my bike

 

U dont ever have to touch the ground unless u want too, i dont, use the rear brake to come to a stop and as soon as the bike stops pop it up, if u do it fast and in a fluid like motion the bike wont want to fall over.

 

That's the truth. Rode last night and kid out here was killing SS circles on stock gearing. Lukas you bastid

 

12000 rpm .....let tha clutch goooooooooooo

 

Few shots at the spot. Lame, but it's what I got.




Still working on getting nice smooth launches. And have now added getting OFF the brake more, and using engine braking.

I still have a habit of launching them a bit too low, but am focusing on getting them to bp in the launch, rather than after. Slowly but surely.

Worth learning FIB at my stage, or stick with staggered?

- Pixel -

 

Looks good from my house. Standin up-right nicely, I was hanging off the back and bending my knees a lot at first, not steady. Get stag locked down, and poppin it right up to bP then go alittle further until you scrape(at slow speed) to feel how much room there is.

 

Well, same problem exists... too chicken **** to get it to bp fast... so I can keep them slow sometimes, but not idle by any means. Maybe stable at 10-15 were my best ones.

Idle is eluding me.

Got my rim back from powder coating tho =P

From earlier today...

The height look ok for what idle will be? Or still higher?


Also worked on stoppies. This is the first time I've really done a session working on them. Managed to roll some into the 80' mark. 100's my goal for now... But trying to keep the start speed low, and work on learning how to balance them left to right higher.




Anyways... I suck. But I'll be out there again tomorrow!

- Pixel -

 

Squid here< what's (all) the stunt abbreviations like bp and rl. So ill understand when someone uses them!

 

bp balance point, rl raulph louie

 

meh, to each his own, i learned idle on 72 tooth on 06 R1 and that made it easier i thought, of course i dont rock the R1 anymore and have a 60 on my 636 but i thought gearing just helped force me further, no choice but to use brake

 

hey man, you need to clutch it up higher from the get-go, don't even touch the brake until you're already feeling that 'oh ****'... o ya when your forks are horizontal with the ground.. you're juuuuust about at BP. Lean back and ease off the brakes and find your bar! in the process you'll find BP.


after 9 months of "learning", i had an epiphany last night and caught idle, and slowed my **** waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down. :YEAH :YEAH

The best way i can describe it... try to set everything up in the launch and let the bike do the work. The less "input" you give the bike, the smoother it's going to be.

I turned my idle up to just under 4k and worked on clucthing right to BP, and then using no throttle and just leaning back and using brake to keep the bike off the pipes.

good luck man! it's a ****** crazy feeling riding idle for the first time. I caught it about 30 min into the session and just rode the next 3 hours trying to get them slower and slower... then i started trying to turn and hurt myself.

get out and riiiiiiiiiide! it's perfect weather here.

 

Thanx.lol one more,what's staggered style

 

right foot brake, left foot pass. peg.

 

the only real advice i can give ya pixel is 1)your gonna realize that for a big bike that gearing is only gonna **** you up and make it way harder. its gonna be a lot more twitchy on the throttle. hell, i think that much gearing on a big bike would be difficult for a pro(especially if he's used to a 600). 2)make sure your runnin 20psi in the back. 3)try skidin the back end out with the rear brake before you set up for the clutch up, it seemed to help me make the connection in my brain(if that makes any sense), as well as remind me brake=rear lock up(or near lock up). 4) and lastly, if you find yourself taking too long to set up for the clutch up(ie. many unsuccessful attempts or indecisiveness) stop. relax. shake it out and try again, cause that **** will tire you out and work against you. hope that helps and as they say in show business "break a leg".

 

im just learning how to clutch it up by myself. i just put a second idle cable in my bike so ive been playin around with acrobatics but im slowly getting higher and longer so i think im on the right track

 

Higher, when your at bp your 12 bar is gonna be like 2-3 inches off the ground. Once you get comfortable with bp, go back a little more and work the brake. Your probably gonna want to shorten your 12 bar eventually, mine was like that too and I shortened it cause it scraped too much.

 

Haha.

I know my posture isn't great... but yeah, I still have a hard time straightening my leg as it were.

- Pixel -

 

wtf?
you are not going to be 2-3 inches off the ground, if you are your draggin your brake and thats not right, you need to poke or tap your brake, you'll get into a rythme, dont use constant pressure, thats not the right way to do it. And you might need throttle while learning but riding idle means pokin brake to keep you from passin bp. Like sooooo........ in that pic i have powers big ol ****** 12 bar and im still aways from the ground
and since my hand isnt on throttle, im obviously at bp


ohhhh and by the way, that is soooo a zx10 front end