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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Do you need to buy a die just to bend pipe for a cage? What is everyone else using?

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I just want to make my own.
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

i say make it off the bike.

im a fabricator/machinist/TIg welder and went thru a powers cage (not greatest fit by the way) and now run a FI cage and must say that thing went on super easy and is nice. its a hassle to make your onw NICELY. just buy one

but thats not what you wanna hear. get pre bent tubing ir a cheap bender, chop saw, make some flanges for teh ends and a MIg welder will do
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

i use 1", .095" wall tubing bent with a JDsquared high dollar tubing bender. welded with a mig. the first cage is always made off the bike which can take some time and then every other cage after that can be a breeze if a jig is made for that particular cage.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

LOL, why do you need a cage? LOL!
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

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LOL, why do you need a cage? LOL!
Cuzz you need one too!! no way am I buying another one.

you ready to come outa hiding?
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Originally Posted by fab5fiddy
i use 1", .095" wall tubing bent with a JDsquared high dollar tubing bender. welded with a mig. the first cage is always made off the bike which can take some time and then every other cage after that can be a breeze if a jig is made for that particular cage.

have you wrecked hard with that .95 wall? it will fold up like a pancake


you need a bender, a way to notch the tube, and a welder. if you cant get a bender or pre bent tube, then use 90 and 45 angle connectors for your bends
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Originally Posted by -MXD-
have you wrecked hard with that .95 wall? it will fold up like a pancake


you need a bender, a way to notch the tube, and a welder. if you cant get a bender or pre bent tube, then use 90 and 45 angle connectors for your bends

what do you know about makin cages.
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Originally Posted by Cody W.
what do you know about makin cages.

nothing really...ITS TRUE!!!
Old Mar 28, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Originally Posted by -MXD-
nothing really...ITS TRUE!!!
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA......i took the cage off the bike and put the plastics back on but i forgot i had to cut the plastics to put the cage on with the plastics......so its sittin in my garage right now...*pout*
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Originally Posted by BVRider1
Do you need to buy a die just to bend pipe for a cage? What is everyone else using?

808?

I just want to make my own.
alright.....you can get a notcher from harbour freight for 39.00....this will make your job easier, don't skimp here......yep your going to need a mig welder or a guy who knows how to stick very well at the least.....if you don't want to buy a bender(also avail. cheap from harbour)find your angle, weld another piece of pipe to a table, pack with sand, heat the bend area and pull that biatch around....it's a slop way to do it, but if you buy sch 80 pipe or .250 tubing you should be fine.....the hardest part of it is going to be cutting out the circles for the inside end of your big pipe that bolts to the engine tab......YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!! just take your time and think it out.....
but its just going to be cheaper to buy another one.....
what are you running? I am putting some together for a 900rr....i'll sell you one of the protos cheap
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

sch80 is possibly the worst thing you could make a cage out of. that **** will shatter when it hits the ground. you might as well u se plastic pvc. and .250" wall tubing is waaaay out of hand man. that b*tch will weigh 50 pounds when yer done.
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

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alright.....you can get a notcher from harbour freight for 39.00....this will make your job easier, don't skimp here......yep your going to need a mig welder or a guy who knows how to stick very well at the least.....if you don't want to buy a bender(also avail. cheap from harbour)find your angle, weld another piece of pipe to a table, pack with sand, heat the bend area and pull that biatch around....it's a slop way to do it, but if you buy sch 80 pipe or .250 tubing you should be fine.....the hardest part of it is going to be cutting out the circles for the inside end of your big pipe that bolts to the engine tab......YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!! just take your time and think it out.....
but its just going to be cheaper to buy another one.....
what are you running? I am putting some together for a 900rr....i'll sell you one of the protos cheap
mark
It's going on a 954....I have a bender.welder..and all that stuff. Just no die for 1" 1/4.

I'll show you my design when I get done.
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Originally Posted by BVRider1
It's going on a 954....I have a bender.welder..and all that stuff. Just no die for 1" 1/4.

I'll show you my design when I get done.

what dies do you have?

if you take a bigger die like 1 1/2" you can make it work for at least one cage. you wont be able to mass produce or make it too accurate, but you can get the bends you need to build one cage.
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Originally Posted by fab5fiddy
sch80 is possibly the worst thing you could make a cage out of. that **** will shatter when it hits the ground. you might as well u se plastic pvc. and .250" wall tubing is waaaay out of hand man. that b*tch will weigh 50 pounds when yer done.
double wall pipe and double wall tubing(boiler) don't see the diff....both will weigh a few pounds od or id same same.....
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

double wall, wtf u taslkin bout willis? mechanical welded tubing. thats what you use
Old Mar 30, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Re: Do you need a Die for making a cage?

Originally Posted by fab5fiddy
double wall, wtf u taslkin bout willis? mechanical welded tubing. thats what you use
i'm just a barbaric boilermaker.... your obviously farther along than I am.......

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