what makes a pro rider?
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From: verticaloutlaw land....south ME
Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by verticaljay
good point 
only problem is that Joe blow takes 1st in amateur in event in texas the next event who is keeping track of who took what in what event. There is no traceability (sp) and different promoters for each event. A governing body is what is needed but we all know what has happened to everyone of those that tried to do it. 
only problem is that Joe blow takes 1st in amateur in event in texas the next event who is keeping track of who took what in what event. There is no traceability (sp) and different promoters for each event. A governing body is what is needed but we all know what has happened to everyone of those that tried to do it. good point, how do you really keep track?? I've never competed...only ridden in shows and I'd consider myself pro. I wouldn't want to be "that guy" trying to mop up in an ameture event. I'd feel way better about coming in last in pro as opposed to first in ameture
the last event we held only had pro events. there was qualifying, which cut down the field and the main events were later in the day...made for a really good show. 
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From: sweden
Re: what makes a pro rider?
why dont you do like the europeans, we have the nordic stuntriding championship, the sweden freestyle festival and offcourse the world championship. everyone can enter, but there are an elimination. the top 10-12 blokes can continue.
we also have factory riders thet are sponsored by the bike companies such as kawasaki, buell, suzuki (myself), yamaha, triumph, ducati and honda. i have newer heard about an american fullsposored team or rider.
in the world championship it is harder, you compeat in 3 or 4 different countries, you have to claer the elimination and take your as beyond. you are aworded points, and the stunter with most points after all the competitions win the world championship. you cant win one competition, and think your the one.
we also have factory riders thet are sponsored by the bike companies such as kawasaki, buell, suzuki (myself), yamaha, triumph, ducati and honda. i have newer heard about an american fullsposored team or rider.
in the world championship it is harder, you compeat in 3 or 4 different countries, you have to claer the elimination and take your as beyond. you are aworded points, and the stunter with most points after all the competitions win the world championship. you cant win one competition, and think your the one.
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Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by kress
why dont you do like the europeans, we have the nordic stuntriding championship, the sweden freestyle festival and offcourse the world championship. everyone can enter, but there are an elimination. the top 10-12 blokes can continue.
we also have factory riders thet are sponsored by the bike companies such as kawasaki, buell, suzuki (myself), yamaha, triumph, ducati and honda. i have newer heard about an american fullsposored team or rider.
in the world championship it is harder, you compeat in 3 or 4 different countries, you have to claer the elimination and take your as beyond. you are aworded points, and the stunter with most points after all the competitions win the world championship. you cant win one competition, and think your the one.
we also have factory riders thet are sponsored by the bike companies such as kawasaki, buell, suzuki (myself), yamaha, triumph, ducati and honda. i have newer heard about an american fullsposored team or rider.
in the world championship it is harder, you compeat in 3 or 4 different countries, you have to claer the elimination and take your as beyond. you are aworded points, and the stunter with most points after all the competitions win the world championship. you cant win one competition, and think your the one.
working on it...team xtreem is sponsored by buell...
national champoinship = the ONLY way to go!
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Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by verticaljay
good point only problem is that Joe blow takes 1st in amateur in event in texas the next event who is keeping track of who took what in what event. There is no traceability (sp) and different promoters for each event. A governing body is what is needed but we all know what has happened to everyone of those that tried to do it.
only problem is that Joe blow takes 1st in amateur in event in texas the next event who is keeping track of who took what in what event. There is no traceability (sp) and different promoters for each event. A governing body is what is needed but we all know what has happened to everyone of those that tried to do it. To this day, what event or organization stepped forward with more than 12 events that included a governing body, rules that made scense and protected the riders, national and regional event media coverage, a points system that allows a single event champion as well as a national points champion, and a reasonable purse pay-out?
Stay tuned... there are more plans in the works for 2005 to re-form a professional series. But here is the deal... if everyone supports it, the sport will succeed. If you don't it will fail. Your choice. (By the way... support included actually attending events as a competitor and/or a spectator.)
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Re: what makes a pro rider?
When you compete as a pro in a contest.
There are hundreds of riders out there that get paid thousands of dollars for a show and there tricks are straight up GARBAGE! So, no way can a person be a pro buy getting paid to do a show!!!
There are hundreds of riders out there that get paid thousands of dollars for a show and there tricks are straight up GARBAGE! So, no way can a person be a pro buy getting paid to do a show!!!
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From: XSBA,USA
Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by rainman
Tried that with XSBA... how many wanted to jump ship, not support it, or otherwise talked trash about it.
To this day, what event or organization stepped forward with more than 12 events that included a governing body, rules that made scense and protected the riders, national and regional event media coverage, a points system that allows a single event champion as well as a national points champion, and a reasonable purse pay-out?
Stay tuned... there are more plans in the works for 2005 to re-form a professional series. But here is the deal... if everyone supports it, the sport will succeed. If you don't it will fail. Your choice. (By the way... support included actually attending events as a competitor and/or a spectator.)
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To this day, what event or organization stepped forward with more than 12 events that included a governing body, rules that made scense and protected the riders, national and regional event media coverage, a points system that allows a single event champion as well as a national points champion, and a reasonable purse pay-out?
Stay tuned... there are more plans in the works for 2005 to re-form a professional series. But here is the deal... if everyone supports it, the sport will succeed. If you don't it will fail. Your choice. (By the way... support included actually attending events as a competitor and/or a spectator.)
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you'll be posting on my behalf today... i will be out of my office... thank you. :YEAH
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From: AURORA, IL
Re: what makes a pro rider?
Here is the key... just as I have explained to everyone before...Two things that can jumpstart this sport and make it a viable media option:
Regional and National Championship events
* 3 regions (East, Central, West) with 6 events in each region which all pay regional points toward regional championships. The events can be already established events such as Stuntfest, etc.
* Select 2 events in each region to make up 6 national events. Those national events will host regional and national championship classes and pay regional and national points towards both championships.
* This provides credibility to regional teams, regional sponsors, and makes competing more financially viable for smaller teams (amateur or pro status).
* This also provides a credible national series that may be more attractive to the larger teams / riders and more nationally interested sponsors.
* Both series provide a viable media option for magazines, local papers, cable and network programming.
MotoFreestyle / USFreestyle (television based tour)
25 riders perform in main event per city
1st 10 riders chosen for the tour by management
5 more chosen by the top 10 riders
Total now of 15 riders
10 more are decided upon event qualifying to reach a total of 25.
Top 15 or all 25 riders receive compensation based on developed budgets.
Those 25 compete to make / select the top 10 riders for next city.
The new top 10 don't qualify for next city, nor do their choices for next 5.
This way the tour constantly changes players (theoretically) and stays diverse. However it may include the same 15-25 riders in each city. The event can be consistent weeks, or spaced throughout the year.
Find sponsor like Parts Unlimited / Speedrag / Icon / RedBull / Gatorade / Pepsi... etc to become a promotional sponsor. Financing should cover all promotional items such as posters, flyers, full time promotional staff (x2), tv production costs, purse money @ $25k (minimum) per round, insurance, track rentals, etc (additional $25k). Maybe budget $50k per round plus salaries and transportation for staffing. So probably $800k without tv production costs would produce a great series of 10 events. Then produce one video per round, so you now have 10 individual DVDs at 60 min each, with the option to produce several 2-pack and 5-pack units to sell as well that can help fund the series and provide larger purses the remaining year.
A series.
The future of street freestyle...
www.MotoFreestyle.org
Regional and National Championship events
* 3 regions (East, Central, West) with 6 events in each region which all pay regional points toward regional championships. The events can be already established events such as Stuntfest, etc.
* Select 2 events in each region to make up 6 national events. Those national events will host regional and national championship classes and pay regional and national points towards both championships.
* This provides credibility to regional teams, regional sponsors, and makes competing more financially viable for smaller teams (amateur or pro status).
* This also provides a credible national series that may be more attractive to the larger teams / riders and more nationally interested sponsors.
* Both series provide a viable media option for magazines, local papers, cable and network programming.
MotoFreestyle / USFreestyle (television based tour)
25 riders perform in main event per city
1st 10 riders chosen for the tour by management
5 more chosen by the top 10 riders
Total now of 15 riders
10 more are decided upon event qualifying to reach a total of 25.
Top 15 or all 25 riders receive compensation based on developed budgets.
Those 25 compete to make / select the top 10 riders for next city.
The new top 10 don't qualify for next city, nor do their choices for next 5.
This way the tour constantly changes players (theoretically) and stays diverse. However it may include the same 15-25 riders in each city. The event can be consistent weeks, or spaced throughout the year.
Find sponsor like Parts Unlimited / Speedrag / Icon / RedBull / Gatorade / Pepsi... etc to become a promotional sponsor. Financing should cover all promotional items such as posters, flyers, full time promotional staff (x2), tv production costs, purse money @ $25k (minimum) per round, insurance, track rentals, etc (additional $25k). Maybe budget $50k per round plus salaries and transportation for staffing. So probably $800k without tv production costs would produce a great series of 10 events. Then produce one video per round, so you now have 10 individual DVDs at 60 min each, with the option to produce several 2-pack and 5-pack units to sell as well that can help fund the series and provide larger purses the remaining year.
A series.
The future of street freestyle...
www.MotoFreestyle.org
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Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by TEACH C6
working on it...team xtreem is sponsored by buell...
national champoinship = the ONLY way to go!
national champoinship = the ONLY way to go!
Be on the train... or be under it...
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Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by rainman
Here is the key... just as I have explained to everyone before...Two things that can jumpstart this sport and make it a viable media option:
Regional and National Championship events
* 3 regions (East, Central, West) with 6 events in each region which all pay regional points toward regional championships. The events can be already established events such as Stuntfest, etc.
* Select 2 events in each region to make up 6 national events. Those national events will host regional and national championship classes and pay regional and national points towards both championships.
* This provides credibility to regional teams, regional sponsors, and makes competing more financially viable for smaller teams (amateur or pro status).
* This also provides a credible national series that may be more attractive to the larger teams / riders and more nationally interested sponsors.
* Both series provide a viable media option for magazines, local papers, cable and network programming.
MotoFreestyle / USFreestyle (television based tour)
25 riders perform in main event per city
1st 10 riders chosen for the tour by management
5 more chosen by the top 10 riders
Total now of 15 riders
10 more are decided upon event qualifying to reach a total of 25.
Top 15 or all 25 riders receive compensation based on developed budgets.
Those 25 compete to make / select the top 10 riders for next city.
The new top 10 don't qualify for next city, nor do their choices for next 5.
This way the tour constantly changes players (theoretically) and stays diverse. However it may include the same 15-25 riders in each city. The event can be consistent weeks, or spaced throughout the year.
Find sponsor like Parts Unlimited / Speedrag / Icon / RedBull / Gatorade / Pepsi... etc to become a promotional sponsor. Financing should cover all promotional items such as posters, flyers, full time promotional staff (x2), tv production costs, purse money @ $25k (minimum) per round, insurance, track rentals, etc (additional $25k). Maybe budget $50k per round plus salaries and transportation for staffing. So probably $800k without tv production costs would produce a great series of 10 events. Then produce one video per round, so you now have 10 individual DVDs at 60 min each, with the option to produce several 2-pack and 5-pack units to sell as well that can help fund the series and provide larger purses the remaining year.
A series.
The future of street freestyle...
www.MotoFreestyle.org
Regional and National Championship events
* 3 regions (East, Central, West) with 6 events in each region which all pay regional points toward regional championships. The events can be already established events such as Stuntfest, etc.
* Select 2 events in each region to make up 6 national events. Those national events will host regional and national championship classes and pay regional and national points towards both championships.
* This provides credibility to regional teams, regional sponsors, and makes competing more financially viable for smaller teams (amateur or pro status).
* This also provides a credible national series that may be more attractive to the larger teams / riders and more nationally interested sponsors.
* Both series provide a viable media option for magazines, local papers, cable and network programming.
MotoFreestyle / USFreestyle (television based tour)
25 riders perform in main event per city
1st 10 riders chosen for the tour by management
5 more chosen by the top 10 riders
Total now of 15 riders
10 more are decided upon event qualifying to reach a total of 25.
Top 15 or all 25 riders receive compensation based on developed budgets.
Those 25 compete to make / select the top 10 riders for next city.
The new top 10 don't qualify for next city, nor do their choices for next 5.
This way the tour constantly changes players (theoretically) and stays diverse. However it may include the same 15-25 riders in each city. The event can be consistent weeks, or spaced throughout the year.
Find sponsor like Parts Unlimited / Speedrag / Icon / RedBull / Gatorade / Pepsi... etc to become a promotional sponsor. Financing should cover all promotional items such as posters, flyers, full time promotional staff (x2), tv production costs, purse money @ $25k (minimum) per round, insurance, track rentals, etc (additional $25k). Maybe budget $50k per round plus salaries and transportation for staffing. So probably $800k without tv production costs would produce a great series of 10 events. Then produce one video per round, so you now have 10 individual DVDs at 60 min each, with the option to produce several 2-pack and 5-pack units to sell as well that can help fund the series and provide larger purses the remaining year.
A series.
The future of street freestyle...
www.MotoFreestyle.org
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Re: what makes a pro rider?
All this is very interesting about competing and winning money or being paid and stuff, but I think that what he was going after was more STUNT oriented. Meaning "I can do 4 circle highchair wheelies, set it down and take a run throught the slolom course and finish up with a 100 foot endo while staying on the tank the whole time, should I be pro?" was more what he was after.
What tricks should you have down, with their variations, before you can say that you're "good."
What tricks should you have down, with their variations, before you can say that you're "good."
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From: Bang-em-Ville....Florida
Re: what makes a pro rider?
heres the way i see it....
have a video =pro...i think not
, backyard wrestling has videos but they are not pro WWF wrestlers..**** my daughters dance recital has a video that sells..
Merch=pro...not... , the first things teams get are T'Shirts...look through the old posts on SL where people are trying to figure out a team name and then immediately post looking for someone who makes shirts.
do shows your pro..wrong again... i ride in shows from time to time and i suck...period
professional people have a profession. that's how they make a living...key word.. LIVING...Kane said it earlier....
As for competitions.....should only be one class. that class puts you against everyone for cash and helps you progress into your profession...PRO CLASS
If an Amatuer class is wanted, it should only be for a trophy or something like some merch...i know it does not sound like a lot but it will do a few things..
1) it will stop sand baggers. if you want the cash you will practice more and earn your cash.
2) it will give the Amatuers experience riding in a competition, in front of a large crowd. i have seen riders time after time nut up in competition that i know could have killed it.
and what's the deal with taking jabs at the Rainman for trying once AGAIN to help this passion everyone here has and turn it into possible opportunity?
sometimes i just don't understand people
just my cents
oh
when you can rip **** up.....you know you can rip **** up. When that time comes, you step it up and compete with the riders you looked up to while learning.
think about it..(and i am not trying to put TEACH out there) but do you honestly think he doesn't know he can rip **** up.. he knows
sorry for the long post
have a video =pro...i think not
, backyard wrestling has videos but they are not pro WWF wrestlers..**** my daughters dance recital has a video that sells..Merch=pro...not...
, the first things teams get are T'Shirts...look through the old posts on SL where people are trying to figure out a team name and then immediately post looking for someone who makes shirts.do shows your pro..wrong again...
i ride in shows from time to time and i suck...periodprofessional people have a profession. that's how they make a living...key word.. LIVING...Kane said it earlier....
As for competitions.....should only be one class. that class puts you against everyone for cash and helps you progress into your profession...PRO CLASS
If an Amatuer class is wanted, it should only be for a trophy or something like some merch...i know it does not sound like a lot but it will do a few things..
1) it will stop sand baggers. if you want the cash you will practice more and earn your cash.
2) it will give the Amatuers experience riding in a competition, in front of a large crowd. i have seen riders time after time nut up in competition that i know could have killed it.
and what's the deal with taking jabs at the Rainman for trying once AGAIN to help this passion everyone here has and turn it into possible opportunity?
sometimes i just don't understand people
just my cents
oh
Originally Posted by Got2josh
All this is very interesting about competing and winning money or being paid and stuff, but I think that what he was going after was more STUNT oriented. Meaning "I can do 4 circle highchair wheelies, set it down and take a run throught the slolom course and finish up with a 100 foot endo while staying on the tank the whole time, should I be pro?" was more what he was after.
What tricks should you have down, with their variations, before you can say that you're "good."
What tricks should you have down, with their variations, before you can say that you're "good."
think about it..(and i am not trying to put TEACH out there) but do you honestly think he doesn't know he can rip **** up.. he knows
sorry for the long post
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From: lakeland,fl
Re: what makes a pro rider?
the true pros are guys like the vertical outlaws, thew from 1096 and teach. these guys have been around and continue to advance this sport to the next level. i love competing against these guys and don't mind losing to them. they are top notch in this sport in my book!! these are the guys that put the professional in pro.
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From: Compton
Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by thew1096
The one thing I hate to hear is when the amatures ask what the payouts for the amature class is. Pro class is the only class that should have a payout. If the difference between 1st place amature and 1st place pro is a couple hundred bucks, well you do the math.
Or how about teams that sit on stunt life and tell you they did shows in front of 10,000 people and got paid for it but still want to comptete as an amature. If you do a show in front of 10 or 10,000 and collect money for doing so, your a pro. Maybe not in skill level, but your making money from it and that means pro status.
One Love,
Thew
Or how about teams that sit on stunt life and tell you they did shows in front of 10,000 people and got paid for it but still want to comptete as an amature. If you do a show in front of 10 or 10,000 and collect money for doing so, your a pro. Maybe not in skill level, but your making money from it and that means pro status.
One Love,
Thew
BINGO
Pros win money
Amateurs win trophys
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From: I-35
Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by CRAZY DAN
:YEAH
BINGO
Pros win money
Amateurs win trophys
BINGO
Pros win money
Amateurs win trophys
j/kBut for real, attitude matters aswell. Not sure about contest/shows*, but if you carry yourself with a professional 'tude, you'll get treated as one.
*thinking sponserships w/ this post.
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Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by rainman
Here is the key... just as I have explained to everyone before...Two things that can jumpstart this sport and make it a viable media option:
Regional and National Championship events
* 3 regions (East, Central, West) with 6 events in each region which all pay regional points toward regional championships. The events can be already established events such as Stuntfest, etc.
* Select 2 events in each region to make up 6 national events. Those national events will host regional and national championship classes and pay regional and national points towards both championships.
* This provides credibility to regional teams, regional sponsors, and makes competing more financially viable for smaller teams (amateur or pro status).
* This also provides a credible national series that may be more attractive to the larger teams / riders and more nationally interested sponsors.
* Both series provide a viable media option for magazines, local papers, cable and network programming.
MotoFreestyle / USFreestyle (television based tour)
25 riders perform in main event per city
1st 10 riders chosen for the tour by management
5 more chosen by the top 10 riders
Total now of 15 riders
10 more are decided upon event qualifying to reach a total of 25.
Top 15 or all 25 riders receive compensation based on developed budgets.
Those 25 compete to make / select the top 10 riders for next city.
The new top 10 don't qualify for next city, nor do their choices for next 5.
This way the tour constantly changes players (theoretically) and stays diverse. However it may include the same 15-25 riders in each city. The event can be consistent weeks, or spaced throughout the year.
Find sponsor like Parts Unlimited / Speedrag / Icon / RedBull / Gatorade / Pepsi... etc to become a promotional sponsor. Financing should cover all promotional items such as posters, flyers, full time promotional staff (x2), tv production costs, purse money @ $25k (minimum) per round, insurance, track rentals, etc (additional $25k). Maybe budget $50k per round plus salaries and transportation for staffing. So probably $800k without tv production costs would produce a great series of 10 events. Then produce one video per round, so you now have 10 individual DVDs at 60 min each, with the option to produce several 2-pack and 5-pack units to sell as well that can help fund the series and provide larger purses the remaining year.
A series.
The future of street freestyle...
www.MotoFreestyle.org
Regional and National Championship events
* 3 regions (East, Central, West) with 6 events in each region which all pay regional points toward regional championships. The events can be already established events such as Stuntfest, etc.
* Select 2 events in each region to make up 6 national events. Those national events will host regional and national championship classes and pay regional and national points towards both championships.
* This provides credibility to regional teams, regional sponsors, and makes competing more financially viable for smaller teams (amateur or pro status).
* This also provides a credible national series that may be more attractive to the larger teams / riders and more nationally interested sponsors.
* Both series provide a viable media option for magazines, local papers, cable and network programming.
MotoFreestyle / USFreestyle (television based tour)
25 riders perform in main event per city
1st 10 riders chosen for the tour by management
5 more chosen by the top 10 riders
Total now of 15 riders
10 more are decided upon event qualifying to reach a total of 25.
Top 15 or all 25 riders receive compensation based on developed budgets.
Those 25 compete to make / select the top 10 riders for next city.
The new top 10 don't qualify for next city, nor do their choices for next 5.
This way the tour constantly changes players (theoretically) and stays diverse. However it may include the same 15-25 riders in each city. The event can be consistent weeks, or spaced throughout the year.
Find sponsor like Parts Unlimited / Speedrag / Icon / RedBull / Gatorade / Pepsi... etc to become a promotional sponsor. Financing should cover all promotional items such as posters, flyers, full time promotional staff (x2), tv production costs, purse money @ $25k (minimum) per round, insurance, track rentals, etc (additional $25k). Maybe budget $50k per round plus salaries and transportation for staffing. So probably $800k without tv production costs would produce a great series of 10 events. Then produce one video per round, so you now have 10 individual DVDs at 60 min each, with the option to produce several 2-pack and 5-pack units to sell as well that can help fund the series and provide larger purses the remaining year.
A series.
The future of street freestyle...
www.MotoFreestyle.org
first things first.............well said ken.........talk to ryan about some ideas i gave him we spoke of about a month ago......im not sayin ive come up with anything im sure u havent thought of and prolly done more research than me on.........but i am more than willing to help to the length of my abilities.
next.........cuz i know the "i dont care where this sport goes i wanna keep it gangsta and stay street ......i ride for me" are gonna come eventually..........two words for u.........metal mulitia (sp)...........every sport needs a bad boy.......break the rules bend the rules........play the game...........own the game..............there is actually room for u in a national series believe it or not...........there is a reason a nascar driver can go in front of a national press conference and admit that he crashed into someone in a race on purpose...........knowing full well he could lose his job (not likely) but definatly will prolly get fined 10 of our salaries put together.................why?...........sponsors.. ..they pay him prolly 100 times what he would ever be fined.............and sometimes even bad press is good press......see its funny no matter how extreme (yet legitimate.........legitimate is the key)somethin is................theres always a company lookin for the extreme guy who has an edge over his peers...........no matter what that edge maybe...........bide yer time play yer role and support the things that could get this sport goin........even if u never want to personally compete.......it will still help u in the long run to give support to a series in anyway possible
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Re: what makes a pro rider?
Originally Posted by sclevela
first things first.............well said ken.........talk to ryan about some ideas i gave him we spoke of about a month ago......im not sayin ive come up with anything im sure u havent thought of and prolly done more research than me on.........but i am more than willing to help to the length of my abilities.
next.........cuz i know the "i dont care where this sport goes i wanna keep it gangsta and stay street ......i ride for me" are gonna come eventually..........two words for u.........metal mulitia (sp)...........every sport needs a bad boy.......break the rules bend the rules........play the game...........own the game..............there is actually room for u in a national series believe it or not...........there is a reason a nascar driver can go in front of a national press conference and admit that he crashed into someone in a race on purpose...........knowing full well he could lose his job (not likely) but definatly will prolly get fined 10 of our salaries put together.................why?...........sponsors.. ..they pay him prolly 100 times what he would ever be fined.............and sometimes even bad press is good press......see its funny no matter how extreme (yet legitimate.........legitimate is the key)somethin is................theres always a company lookin for the extreme guy who has an edge over his peers...........no matter what that edge maybe...........bide yer time play yer role and support the things that could get this sport goin........even if u never want to personally compete.......it will still help u in the long run to give support to a series in anyway possible
next.........cuz i know the "i dont care where this sport goes i wanna keep it gangsta and stay street ......i ride for me" are gonna come eventually..........two words for u.........metal mulitia (sp)...........every sport needs a bad boy.......break the rules bend the rules........play the game...........own the game..............there is actually room for u in a national series believe it or not...........there is a reason a nascar driver can go in front of a national press conference and admit that he crashed into someone in a race on purpose...........knowing full well he could lose his job (not likely) but definatly will prolly get fined 10 of our salaries put together.................why?...........sponsors.. ..they pay him prolly 100 times what he would ever be fined.............and sometimes even bad press is good press......see its funny no matter how extreme (yet legitimate.........legitimate is the key)somethin is................theres always a company lookin for the extreme guy who has an edge over his peers...........no matter what that edge maybe...........bide yer time play yer role and support the things that could get this sport goin........even if u never want to personally compete.......it will still help u in the long run to give support to a series in anyway possible
think we need to find you and bust your period key off your keyboard dude. then tape your finger on the Enter key so you can actually read what your typing without getting a freaking headache.
