what list would that be

 

gettin paid to do wheelies...comps, events, and or from sponsers....i wasnt to sure about the "pro" thing either but Thew had some good words of wisdom for me..he might have them for you too

this thread is gettin kinda nuts...Rodg is my boy, and a very serious rider but life tends to get in the way wheelies, reguardless of whether or not you agree with him i think its pretty easy for everyone of us to relate to/understand where he is commin from......me im dead ****in broke but i strongly believe that with dedication this sport WILL explode...so i have been travelin to every show i hear about(theres always ways to scavenge up some funds)...i have and always will support riders cause since ive started i have recieved nothin but pure love from every stunter ive met, so in return i do whatever i can to help out the community

and for all you gettin huffy and puffy remember hostess now has a variety of flavored cupcakes

 

Damn dude you are pretty serious about those cupcakes, did Crazy J pay up those cupcakes he owes you from Hooters last night? You earned em bro lol

 

new protective suit merk?

 

Wow. I think this thread is interesting for the exception of name calling.

I don’t know how much of you will take what I'm about to say, but it’s a thought so don’t flame me for it.

It may be hard to believe for some, but I do have to admit I see allot of truth behind Rodg C.C. opinions on the subject. Not all of his thoughts I agree with, but reading all his posts, I get the message he is attempting to convey, but isn’t quiet doing a great job of it.

I can’t remember which member here talks about sponsors and that bring in much revenue for the rider as apposed to payout.

Although that particular member is correct, you cannot achieve true sponsors with enough bank at this point because simple the sport is marketable enough to make it worth while. This is the reason you have starving riders.

I believe the XSBA is a good thing, I think its a great way for unknown great talents out there to have a CHANCE to put themselves on a map in a much larger way then the traditional, Hey guys I with team so and so and I just made a video, check it out.

I do feel although that the XSBA is moving in the wrong direction when you take a look at the average stunt rider in all aspects.

the SPORT is not meant to be presented in the XSBA fashion therefore I don’t believe that the popularity of the sport in general will ever exceed the level most stunt riders hope for it to be.

There is plenty of hope so to speak. I believe that as long as the community continues to grow we will see the sport develop into the sport we envision at this point in time. IT WILL NOT be what you are seeing at the XSBA, unless, UNLESS the XSBA grows with the stunt community. There are not growing with you stunters, they are growing apart from you.

Wrong market guys, you don’t market this sport with road racing first off. Big mistake...sure affiliating yourself with an established sport can help expose the sport, but will not be accepted due to the markets audience.

XSBA will need to grow with everyone, if they can’t then the XSBA wont succeed in “your” sport. Doesn’t mean the sport wont grow, but will have to wait for the next attempt.

Aside from the XSBA, the entire stunt community is lacking a few elements right now to make it happen.

I know that the few who read this will understand what I truly mean by elements being missing.

Right now you only have your privately funded events, and the XSBA. If you want to compete go for it, you may win you may not. The XSBA is probably the only avenue to get any type of exposure that’s worth anything even if it’s not pushed to the right audience.

It’s not hard to figure it out, take a look around you, and make a note every time you’re out on the street riding with stunters, or takes a look around and observes the minds of the average stunt fan to stunt rider...the answers are right in front of you.

this isnt skate boarding, or BMX, or even MOTOCROSS X. all those sports have one thing in common. there wild riders and audience is easily controlled.

 

If i wanted to sponsor a stunt team or a one guy whats in it for me? Ive only seen a few riders out there who actually support there sponsors well! Maybe you guys should talk to some people who have big name sponsors and see how they got them and what they do for them. Instead of bitching about it on some forum with sponsor by www.whatever.com on your sig. I see all these pics of bikes in street and strip ashpfault mag cycle dreams etec etc but there all crunchy with no sponsors names on them and if there is. I cant barely the small sticker anyways no one wants to give money to someone or a team that doesnt make them money botton line!

 

lets crawl before we walk here!

its all a waste of time simply due to noone havin any heart! this life is full of choices and paths to take.. its just as hard for me to make it to events as anyone else here, thats why i bust *** to find sponsors to cover my trip! it aint that hard, just get off yer ***! and as far as lost wages, why cant you make a sacrifice and gamble like i do every month? im no richer than you, i have bills too. but ya know what, i make it there event after event. someone throws on an event that pays thousands and thousands of dollars and everyone jumps all over it cuz they wanna get rich quick er somethin. but when a guy puts together an organization and provides a foundation for us all to build off of, riders just brush it off cuz he cant offer you $5,000 for first place. so that must make it a waste of time even though he puts you in front of an entire to group of fans to gain, not the same people at every private event. and whats wrong with the road racin bro? maybe it aint the best combo, but it provides something to work with, track, insurance, and again fans, until we can do it ourselves. right or wrong?

want some math? here!

entry- $100 x 25 riders= $2500= no more being a leach and draining a company for funds. funds may be small coin to them, but coin nonetheless.

now all the sudden, we are runnin a lil smoother and still gaining spectators. pretty soon people come, not only to see FUSA, but some come just to see XSBA! and by the way, there are not a lot of people that go to watch these FUSA races, most of the people there come with the riders, but when we go on, ALL OF THEM are lined up along the wall to see! and they cheer. and that means we are gaining fans.


there is so much more i wanna say, but i dont feel like gettin half of the ****in stunt community pissed at me. all i know is, noone on a bike is a superstar yet, so why is it that noone is doing **** to help this sport where it needs it, but yet they dive at a shot to do a show on a foriegn ****in island!!! face it, noone is doin videos to help get this sport out there, they do em to make money and for that reason only,and a show in bahamas aint doin **** but providing you a trip to the bahamas! is everyone too ignorant to see these things? a guy posted a while back lookin for someone to do a show in tennessee i think. noone replied to him, i bet if he was in tajiti, his pm box would crash stuntlifes site for a day.im sure all these fools that cant make it to an xsba event would be able to make it to tajiti! when anyone on this board is serious about this ****, gimme a PM!

 

check out this past months asphault magazine centerfold. clean bike, sponsors stickers, (gay rider lol)....

effit, do what you want. if it isnt a national series with points paying rounds, i'm not going.

everyone can keep going to all these private events with the same 500 riders and spectators, spend your money there if thats what floats your boat.

not to say that private shows in front of thousands of NEW fans aren't good, cuz they are; but i'm interested in a championship of some sorts ( i think!?)-maybe i'll just go back to riding my dirtbike in the woods.

enjoy your day and your time. i'll see you suckas in daytona in about a week. final xsba round.

Mr. McNeil

 

everyone is all ways asking who the best is, isn't this the best way to show who is what in the world

 

i think your missing the point, its not whos the best rider were talkin about its about exposure of the sport and what surrounds it, personally in a sport like this, that has so much variety and style..."the Best" will be an opinoin

DV8Ronnie..

 

i dont get what you are saying or asking...there will never be a best, right now the best is someone's opinion. however, rumor has it that a new organization has started with innovative judging and scoring methods to determine the best rider...count me in on this as well.

all i am trying to say is that, as far as competitions go, i want a National Championship title, not the 'best rider of the day' title...

i could go on for days about this but i'm already bored with this subject, so i'm sure that all of you are bored with my opinions as well.

chris

 

sup teach you need i say anymore see you florida

 

Remember skateboarding guys? I know some of you were hitting the rails downtown like I was back in the day. That was an "illegal" sport, and now look at it... it took a lot of time though, and once it gets a few more "roll model" type riders that are willing to give up the whole "ghetto / gangstar" look and attitude then the sport will really take off... Them be the breaks.

Do I really need to point out how it's doing in Europe... those guys cleaned up the act and it's drawing huge crouds and big bucks! People are still rolling wheelies on the highways over there too and it hasn't been bad foer the sport, it's how the public sees it that matters.

Clear Channel got into the game nice and early, and It's obvious that all they are doing is waiting it out... why invest into something that could flop?
They are just gonna wait until it picks up... then step in like they were supporting it full on the whole time, and people will buy it.
I think it does kinda suck, and that they should put some money into it to help, but hey, what can ya do?

If they don't help then NO riders should enter their events. There are plenty of other ones that are done by riders, for riders...

 

thats what I was saying that if you compete in the xsba and win a national title than you are the best that year. Just like any other sport a nation title is what you should be after. Everyone has the same opp's to compete the ones that do are the ones tring to achive something

 

right but if you spend all this time and money to be where you are today wouldn't it feel good to be reconized for it in some way. I don't compete but I will go from years of wrestling and other things, winning 1 big event is a thrill feels good but thats all it was was 1 time. Winning a year long national event should mean more to people. Just like wrestling when I placed first in a weekend tourn, it was cool and all but only so many first place wins mean anything. It was the state and national titles that felt the best. Everyone is all ways thinking about the future and what not but at the same time you need to think about the now and make it worth while for yourself while you are still in it. It might be 10 years till it is in the big time by than you might not be riding anymore so why not make the best out of it while you are in the sport.