^^ lol

 

i just saved a few pictures, took the laptop to the garage and used those to work with

anyways i realized that (at least on my bike) it's not a 1/2 inch t, it's a 1/2 inch t INSERT. the insert means that it fits into a 1/2 inch opening, while the 1/2 inch t has 1/2 inch openings on all sides

so i had to tape up the T pretty ghetto like, anyways

i didn't notice any real difference, if anything (maybe) the low rpm's were a bit smoother when taking off

and how does it make sense that there is a vacuum but no pressure? any kind of vacuum will create pressure if the air has nowhere to release it self?

 

 

had you read the thread you would know there is a place for the air to release through the reed valves in your valve cover to the exhaust ..

 

my bad

 

dee dee dee come on fellas use your school skills and read

 

doo doo do you think I know the product? No. Do I sort of know the generic PAIR system, D'uh!

D'uh, I know dis much: For every action dare is an equal reaction; so say the crank and air cleaner are a matched set. Say you plumb the crankcase to the PAIR. Say, you dump a bunch of oil down the exhaust and that is going to cook some oil into carbon that is going to close the air reed down, possibly.

All of a sudden you have crank and counter shaft sprocket seals backing up; the vent goes closed.

I'd service or at least look over my reeds I start to re-plumb the bike. Next is that noise you keep hearing? I'm going to guess the pulse is getting a miss-read on the PAIR electric gate, and semi defaults to the backup.

Without hearing the noise, that is my guess. You feel some bottom grunt, but what you feel is the "backup" is Kawi terms and Suz says the "fail-safe" is their legal term for the same generic. So, do we spike the hack to the bottom grunt with a faster set ignition map?
Hummmmmmmmmm....Interesting.

 

can I do this mod to my carbed F4 ? anyone tried?

 

what is an f4i???
what is an airbox???
what is air???
what is a t-valve???
what is 1/2 inch???

 

The reaction you get is polluting the environment, and not hydrolocking your motor, while possibly picking up a little power.

I have probably over 15k on my bike with my clean air mod, actually never even ONCE dumped oil into my exhaust yet somehow And this is on my 35k mile f4i

 

dont listen to paz .

 

so no one tried on a carbed F4 ?
OMR you are the brain in this thread, share some thoughts

 

if it has a pair valve and reed valves in the valve cover then it will work .

 

this is how its on the carbed f4



maybe just dump the crankcase breather hose and fill up the hole with something ? it goes into the airbox

 

cant really tell from that picture , i would need to see it in person to see where every thing goes but yes bypassing the air box is always a good idea so the crank case vent tube cant put oil in the air box

 

planning a trip to romania soon ?

ill try to compare the hoses from the f4i with the ones from f4 and see if it makes any sense

 

no but i hear it is very nice in the mountains

 

from the pictures it looks like the pair valve is ported to the intake and you dont want to reroute your crank case breather to the intake ...

 

the left hose from the pair valve goes in the airbox and the right one splits in two and goes in the carbs, the other one is the outer air vent hose which must stay there for air intake
the crankcase hose goes directly from the motor to the airbox this is why ive said that maybe fill it up will do the trick

 

fill the hose in the air box but the crank case still needs to be vented