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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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cause he's talkin about powering it up in 1st gear... thats how you loop... i'm just showin u what u can look forward to learnin pow pows
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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oh... i have no problem helping squids but when they come on here thinkin theyre the **** thats when i have a problem with it
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Murph 636
2nd Gear, slip da clutch at 40-45 or you can do a infamous pow-pow with a bounce anywhere from 50-55.
oh yeah.. and this is the kind of **** that gets people hurt..
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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oh yeah.. and this is the kind of **** that gets people hurt..
that's the thing i having trouble with. he does his like that with no problem at all. by the way, my wheelie is getting longer down the road by going 25mph and slip the clutch bringing it up. now it feels so easy to do. like i feel like it's easy as walking and i hit that balance point but studdered on if i should hold it in place on hand throttle or tap gas when needed. it was really light. is sitting on the gas tank hard to bring it up LOL
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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oh yeah.. and this is the kind of **** that gets people hurt..
that's the thing i having trouble with. he does his like that with no problem at all. by the way, my wheelie is getting longer down the road by going 25mph and slip the clutch bringing it up. now it feels so easy to do. like i feel like it's easy as walking and i hit that balance point but studdered on if i should hold it in place on hand throttle or tap gas when needed. it was really light. is sitting on the gas tank hard to bring it up LOL. EVERYTIME i slip the clutch bringing it up in 1st guys at the spot i go to are sayin "don't do that cause ain't no need, do it in 2nd...it'll come up. i'm like...uhhhhh no, i tried over and over and all i hear is my chain pullin hard!
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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clutching sitting on the tank should be something you try after you master riding BP, and get good throttle controll.... especially w/out a hand brake, cause there is no saving yourself w/out a brake.
Old Oct 12, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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the reason it seems easier is you can ride out the rpm range.. if you accidentally grab to much throttle without experience doing it slower it could end up bad..

i learned on a dirtbike.. fell a ton of times.. and it hurt less.. that IMO is the best way to learn.. the thing that didn't transfer over was the clutch up.. a lot more power 2 get use to.. but once i got that down i could ride out bp wheelies and balance them from my db experience..
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aaaaahhhh grasshopper...... in due time!

i dont know why everyone is raggin on the squids for...... so he does power wheelies, and thinks he is hitting BP... maybe he is. is it that far fetched to hit BP, and loose it then chase it back up (in and out of bp like he called it) atleast they are here tryin to learn..... i couldnt do anything but chase a wheelie when i came to this site either...... but i did learn you gotta watch what you say lol cause ppl just look for things to bust your head on (i do the same lol)

Thanks paul for not ragging on me, you've been nothing but positive and you've called me out too, which is something I take in respect because you saw something that you had a better approach at.


In as far as the video goes of that bike looping, it looks like he just grabbed the throttle and never looked back, he would have been alright if he would have eased off of it. By the looks of the vid, it sure wasn't a 6 (which doesn't matter) and I doubt a rear brake could have saved that, it happened so fast, all he had to do was use some engine braking. That's a squid move, but Im through with saying anything. Zuki05 knows where to find me, and I think that learning the powerband is better than clutching when it comes to learning, after that everything else will fall into place.

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Thanks paul for not ragging on me, you've been nothing but positive and you've called me out too, which is something I take in respect because you saw something that you had a better approach at.


In as far as the video goes of that bike looping, it looks like he just grabbed the throttle and never looked back, he would have been alright if he would have eased off of it. By the looks of the vid, it sure wasn't a 6 (which doesn't matter) and I doubt a rear brake could have saved that, it happened so fast, all he had to do was use some engine braking. That's a squid move, but Im through with saying anything. Zuki05 knows where to find me, and I think that learning the powerband is better than clutching when it comes to learning, after that everything else will fall into place.
LMAO on the next nice day if i'm not at practice i'm blowing that phone up hahaha! damn ya'll!!! i'm itching to do more than bringing that wheel up. ok if i can't do the sitting on tank, what about rolling burn out?!?!?! OOOO before i forget, here's a good question for you guys, this link is where i was gonna get a sprocket kit and i wanna know is this ok?
http://www.1tail.com/sa/c/Yana_Shiki...ocket_Kits.htm hehe it's cheapest i found
it's the cheapest i found, my chain has a kink in it is why i'm getting another one. it's the 600 gsx-r cause i'm 2005 year model

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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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rolling burnouts arent hard @ all once you get the hang of them, but i have to say.... i dropped my bike more learning burnouts than anything. either wash the front out, and bike fall on its side, or get to doing them in circles, and lowside them.... they are ******* fun as hell though, and youll go through alot of tires.... but THER R FUN! as for that chain/sprocket kit... im not too sure
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i'd check out hai.. they usually have cheap prices..

http://www.haibikeshop.com/store/ind...cPath=2_38_372
Old Oct 13, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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i'd check out hai.. they usually have cheap prices..

http://www.haibikeshop.com/store/ind...cPath=2_38_372
thanks man, it came out cheaper with the kit from that site. called some local shops and riders and they said i just have to have my gearing changed. i'm not about speed anyways, i just like that front wheel up cause it's something different for me lol.
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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so i'm down at the spot and i'm doing my wheelies, i get asked again "are you clutching it up". i said yes, they are like "man we don't wanna see you get hurt or see you fall man. "power it up". they say it's less stress on the chain too if you power it up. I thought if you power it up it's more on the chain. power is yanking the chain i thought. but heck, i could be wrong i don't know. bottom line my question is, for wheelies as a beginner.....should i stay with what makes me feel comfortable and not worry of what they say. or should i start powering it up. i feel better clutching it though cause i gotta get up to like 40mph for power wheelies. Paul, Matt, Murph, Thx guys, i'm now slippin my clutch up and i'm riding it really well on one wheel. I'm gonna put on vid as soon as i can so you guys can see. when i 1st came to this site i wasn't even slippin the clutch. sooner or later my avatar will be like louisvillerider....but the legs will be on the pegs lol.
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Re: finding balance point

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so i'm down at the spot and i'm doing my wheelies, i get asked again "are you clutching it up". i said yes, they are like "man we don't wanna see you get hurt or see you fall man. "power it up". they say it's less stress on the chain too if you power it up. I thought if you power it up it's more on the chain. power is yanking the chain i thought. but heck, i could be wrong i don't know. bottom line my question is, for wheelies as a beginner.....should i stay with what makes me feel comfortable and not worry of what they say. or should i start powering it up. i feel better clutching it though cause i gotta get up to like 40mph for power wheelies. Paul, Matt, Murph, Thx guys, i'm now slippin my clutch up and i'm riding it really well on one wheel. I'm gonna put on vid as soon as i can so you guys can see. when i 1st came to this site i wasn't even slippin the clutch. sooner or later my avatar will be like louisvillerider....but the legs will be on the pegs lol.
always clutch!!! dont slip ur clutch just pop it, itll burn ur clutch!!!! clutching is safer and more consistent so u always know wat to expect!!
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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i've got alot better pulling the wheel up, i'm holding it up til i red line lol. now i wanna know do i change gear while my wheel is up? i'm in 1st gear going about 25mph when i clutch it up, but as i ride out the wheelie just churpin a lil gas here/there the rpms are redline and i have no choice but to sit it down. any suggestions?


oh yeah and what gear should i be in to clutch it up on the highway? i do sit down wheelies, i dont' stand up. if your gonna reply i need to be going about 90mph then nvm lol.
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I suck, right now learning/trying to ride out slow bp on a geared bike, breaking **** often but turning the oh **** feeling into oh yeah! My highway bike gone 3+ on rear, gives a little more torque. First gear 10-20 what feels good, clutch it up and keep throttle open, get to the oh **** feeling and shift smoothly if your not high enough the bike will drop when you go to shift, keep on going. For me and my bike clutching second around 30-40 most comfortable, still chasing front wheel but less as time goes on, bottom line is like they are saying stand the bitch up, easier said than done especially if you don't want bail or crash when you do go to far.
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cause he's talkin about powering it up in 1st gear... thats how you loop... i'm just showin u what u can look forward to learnin pow pows
personal background:
experience riding - NONE
first bike - 00 zx-9
time owning bike - 1 yr
modifications - -1 front sprocket
choice of wheelie - pow pow
visits to pavement - several
visits to pavement due to pow pow - ZERO

i don't believe that doing pow pows will lead to looping unless there are some other circumstances involved!!! unless there is a pot hole or some alcohol involved, i really don't think looping due to a pow pow is too likely unless some one is playing the role of superman for the moment! this is actually my first time i read this post and i could of probably cut this down to about 20-30 post if there wasn't so much flirting going on!

now, who's up for some line dancing?
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Re: finding balance point

Originally Posted by zx-9er
personal background:
experience riding - NONE
first bike - 00 zx-9
time owning bike - 1 yr
modifications - -1 front sprocket
choice of wheelie - pow pow
visits to pavement - several
visits to pavement due to pow pow - ZERO

i don't believe that doing pow pows will lead to looping unless there are some other circumstances involved!!! unless there is a pot hole or some alcohol involved, i really don't think looping due to a pow pow is too likely unless some one is playing the role of superman for the moment! this is actually my first time i read this post and i could of probably cut this down to about 20-30 post if there wasn't so much flirting going on!

now, who's up for some line dancing?
this thread is 2 months old, let it die....



you will get no where with pow pow's

go ride your pow pows (and stick up for them) like all your other friends in the sea
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Re: finding balance point

Originally Posted by zx-9er
personal background:
experience riding - NONE
first bike - 00 zx-9
time owning bike - 1 yr
modifications - -1 front sprocket
choice of wheelie - pow pow
visits to pavement - several

now, who's up for some line dancing?
enough said
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Re: finding balance point

Originally Posted by louisvillerider
enough said

lol yea so squidly

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