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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by Zuki750
No idea, really. Someone once told me rotation but I find that hard to believe. Exhaust manifolds are definitely different, other than that I don't know.
some boats with dual i/o's will have one of the motors spin backwards. besides that i cant think on anything that should be different
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by NINER
What direction does a propeller need to turn? A car engine turns clockwise, I think. Still though, that has nothing to do with the long block of the engine. That is all cam and ignition. If it has a cracked block I could pull it, bring it back to my garage and swap out most of the parts in a new block. I'd rather buy something running though.
Looking from the back of a boat, a standard rotation prop turns clockwise. But you can get outdrives that spin the other way. If you have two engines, it's best to have the props turn different directions to avoid them walking sideways.

Here's what I found about the difference between motors. Basically gaskets, freeze plugs, water pumps, exhaust, and anything electrical.

http://www.boatfix.com/how/marineeng.html
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by LEASNIT
Mine had a 455... wasnt much diffrent on my motor that I could see other then no water pump, ignition was diff... diff water neck n hoses to run to the manifolds... the cam.. all the electical needs to be marine grade...
wait, no water pump?
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Re: Track riding

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wait, no water pump?
well mine was a jet boat... it sucked in water n shot it back out without a pump, water neck ran to my water cooled exhaust manifolds instead of a radiator...
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by LEASNIT
well mine was a jet boat... it sucked in water n shot it back out without a pump, water neck ran to my water cooled exhaust manifolds instead of a radiator...
Probably like a jet ski. Takes water from the high pressure part of the jet pump and forces it through the motor.
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by Zuki750
Looking from the back of a boat, a standard rotation prop turns clockwise. But you can get outdrives that spin the other way. If you have two engines, it's best to have the props turn different directions to avoid them walking sideways.

Here's what I found about the difference between motors. Basically gaskets, freeze plugs, water pumps, exhaust, and anything electrical.

http://www.boatfix.com/how/marineeng.html
that explains it. open cooling system, and gasoline vapor proof
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by MikeM
some boats with dual i/o's will have one of the motors spin backwards. besides that i cant think on anything that should be different
I always thought the motor was the same but it was in the out drive. Looks like I was wrong.
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by LEASNIT
well mine was a jet boat... it sucked in water n shot it back out without a pump, water neck ran to my water cooled exhaust manifolds instead of a radiator...
Jet drives use a fitting tapped into a high pressure area of the pump to supply cool lake water.
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Re: Track riding

running salt water through anything is such a bad idea. id rather make room for a radiator. salt water rusted the exhaust on my old dodge to its death in 1 year
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by Zuki750
My father had a 14' checkmate with a 140 hp outboard. It would literally jump itself out of the water. Man that was a fun boat. It would do about 70 mph. His friend bought a 15' checkmate and put a 200 hp motor on it. It almost sunk just sitting there but that boat was scary fast. Somewhere around 85 mph.
I'm looking for 55-60 tops.
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by NINER
I'm looking for 55-60 tops.
That's fast but you'll need a 350 to get there. A 4.3 won't do it.
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by Zuki750
I always thought the motor was the same but it was in the out drive. Looks like I was wrong.
if theyre making custom camshafts anyway, at that point its pretty easy to spin a motor backwards. especially if it doesnt have a water pump. Think what else has to be reversed.. a couple wires?
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by MikeM
running salt water through anything is such a bad idea. id rather make room for a radiator. salt water rusted the exhaust on my old dodge to its death in 1 year
Boats run in salt water year round and don't have many issues. I flush mine when I take it out but I don't worry about it.
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by NINER
I'm looking for 55-60 tops.
where are you planning to go that fast in a little boat?
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Re: Track riding

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Boats run in salt water year round and don't have many issues. I flush mine when I take it out but I don't worry about it.
yup, and i still think its bad news
Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by MikeM
if theyre making custom camshafts anyway, at that point its pretty easy to spin a motor backwards. especially if it doesnt have a water pump. Think what else has to be reversed.. a couple wires?
They charge like $1000 for reverse rotation. The timing setup, the distributor, and the cam are all different. I'm sure there's more.

Have you ever seen the Ski Doo 2 strokes that run both directions? They're pretty neat. Instead of adding a reverse gear, you hit a button, the motor dies, and starts up in the opposite direction.
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Re: Track riding

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Re: Track riding

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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Re: Track riding

Originally Posted by Zuki750
They charge like $1000 for reverse rotation. The timing setup, the distributor, and the cam are all different. I'm sure there's more.

Have you ever seen the Ski Doo 2 strokes that run both directions? They're pretty neat. Instead of adding a reverse gear, you hit a button, the motor dies, and starts up in the opposite direction.
never seen one but ive heard of them. pretty cool. i heard there was a 3 cyl saab back in the 80s that would run in reverse if you switched the plug wires. wonder if thats true
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Re: Track riding

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