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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuki750
Not at all. Faith is a wonderful thing. I wish I had it. I'm too scientifically oriented to believe. Religion is a way for an entity to control people and take their money. There are stories of corruption in all forms of religion. Sure they also do good things. I'm not saying all religious people are bad. I'm saying as a whole religions are oppressive and elitist.
I guess I can agree with that......I think this country could use a little more faith though.....it's gotten me through some **** in my life......and has kept me from doing a lot of awful things to others......
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Re: This is my forum now

Originally Posted by Zuki750
Not at all. Faith is a wonderful thing. I wish I had it. I'm too scientifically oriented to believe. Religion is a way for an entity to control people and take their money. There are stories of corruption in all forms of religion. Sure they also do good things. I'm not saying all religious people are bad. I'm saying as a whole religions are oppressive and elitist.
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that's why i keep you around, you even me out
HA HA HA Becky I'd have that lil bitch handled by some local crack head!! Good thing Mike is more level headed.....
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by skillz954
see you're changing the nature of this conversation......I'm not discussing religion per se......I'm saying people who are religious consider marriage to be a religious union.....as long as you are going to let the people vote on this issue the word marriage and what it means to religious people will have an impact.....so call it a civil union and make it the exact same as marriage....
Then why have non religious people been forced to use marriage? I say take it away from the church since it's already been given to everyone else. I don't think something like this should be up to the people. People are dumb.
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Originally Posted by skillz954
I guess I can agree with that......I think this country could use a little more faith though.....it's gotten me through some **** in my life......and has kept me from doing a lot of awful things to others......
if you need religion to keep you from doing bad things to people that says more about you than it does about religion
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Originally Posted by Zuki750
I don't think something like this should be up to the people. People are dumb.
cant even believe you just said this
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Re: This is my forum now

Originally Posted by skillz954
see you're changing the nature of this conversation......I'm not discussing religion per se......I'm saying people who are religious consider marriage to be a religious union.....as long as you are going to let the people vote on this issue the word marriage and what it means to religious people will have an impact.....so call it a civil union and make it the exact same as marriage....
Originally Posted by skillz954
I understand and mostly agree with what he's saying I'm just trying to explain why it'll be an issue as long as it's left up to a vote by the people......
the quote from you above better explains ... i know what you were getting at and i agree with your above quote ... i'm lutheran and although most of my family is catholic i had some bad experiences with the catholic church - like when my grandpa died and i couldn't take communion at his funeral, i was furious, to the point of almost trying to stop the church from getting the huge sum of money coming their way lol
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Re: This is my forum now

Originally Posted by Zuki750
Then why have non religious people been forced to use marriage? I say take it away from the church since it's already been given to everyone else. I don't think something like this should be up to the people. People are dumb.
and I think if it's the matter of a word....use a different word......you can't take it from the people who created it......which is what I've been saying all along......if you try the people of faith will take it as an attack on faith and it'll never pass by a vote of the people......
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Originally Posted by skillz954
I guess I can agree with that......I think this country could use a little more faith though.....it's gotten me through some **** in my life......and has kept me from doing a lot of awful things to others......
people with no morals or conscious could use faith
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mike....is it time to get married yet?
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awesome ... just got the call from the butcher! our hanging half of grass fed cow is getting butchered in a few days!!!!!! i went boneless with 3/4" steaks ... mmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by becky
mike....is it time to get married yet?
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Originally Posted by old man roger
if you need religion to keep you from doing bad things to people that says more about you than it does about religion
I am not a man of high moral or ethical standards......but I am a man of faith.....and faith tells me if I am a bad man now I will pay later........that's the idea behind christianity.....do not kill, lie, steal, bang your neighbors wife, etc.....so yes I need religion to keep me from doing bad things to people......and to honest I think everyone does......that's why we are surrounded by a lot of scum bags without faith or respect for themselves or others......
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Originally Posted by scott3824
people with no morals or conscious could use faith
people with no morals or conscious need to be put to sleep
Old Nov 16, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scott3824
awesome ... just got the call from the butcher! our hanging half of grass fed cow is getting butchered in a few days!!!!!! i went boneless with 3/4" steaks ... mmmmmmm
oh man.....i wish i was getting some of that!
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Originally Posted by scott3824
people with no morals or conscious could use faith
exactly......
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Originally Posted by becky
mike....is it time to get married yet?
no you have at least 5 years left......
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Originally Posted by becky
oh man.....i wish i was getting some of that!
i know i can't wait ... just cleaned out and defrosted the freezer ... but i have to go out and get a chest freezer before i get my first deer this year - running out of room for meat
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Originally Posted by scott3824
i know i can't wait ... just cleaned out and defrosted the freezer ... but i have to go out and get a chest freezer before i get my first deer this year - running out of room for meat
i'm going to ask my dad to send me deer sausage and/or jerky when he gets his deer. he's been ready for deer season the past 5 times i've talked to him
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Originally Posted by skillz954
no you have at least 5 years left......
i think you're right. if i start going to church will that make it happen sooner?



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