Originally Posted by T/C

Dont be an ***... Thats what started all of this.. on the other end

Originally Posted by never 2 old

Area code 530...nor-cal, cali boyz....your cows arnt as happy as ours!

Originally Posted by kingmotox27

Ok, I don't think I said yes...if I did that was a typo. Whenever this topic is brought up I look at this one particular verse in the book of Romans...because it does kinda pinpoint the issue. Here (Rom. 2:12-16) the apostle Paul is talking about the Gentiles who do not have the law. Gentiles is a bible term that really just means anybody who is not of Jewish decent...as the jews received the law through Moses. So a Gentile encompassed any group of people who were not taught the law, and did not have the ten commandments (at the time that Paul wrote Romans, the roman people were considered Gentiles...and so were the african tribes and people in China and where ever). Anyway, in this scripture, Paul basically explains that anyone who did not have the law (to obey...because just hearing the law without obeying it was useless) still have the requirements of the law written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness. I really think that when God mad mankind that he programmed us with a conscience that knows what's right and what's wrong. It sure seems that no matter what people group you look at, all groups will unanimously agree that it is wrong to kill another person, or steal...etc. But, once a person has received the law, this passage says that they will be judged according to what they know. If they have never been taught the law, it seems that God is going to judge them according to what they do know. "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-- his eternal power and divine nature-- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse." Romans 1:20

But once a person has been told the truth, (that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and that we are all in need of the only Savior that can remove our sins and save us from the wrath of God) and yet they reject that truth, then they will receive the wrath of God.

one more verse along these lines:
"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' and again, 'The Lord will judge his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Hebrews 10:26

That's alot of reading!

Originally Posted by dwminnick

t/c did you get that bike??