Wsra Stepped Up!
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From: Orlando Florida
Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
For the record, STUNTWARS has nothing to do with WSRA.
Yes, one of our employees is involved with it, and honestly we arent to happy about the way she went about it behind our backs and contacting people that we are in business with. I am sure that their goal is to get XDL, Stuntwars, and who ever else aboard and in the end they will be the ones who organized the sport and help the riders. Till they approve their system with XDL, Stuntwars, Stuntfest etc. The way I see it is, talk with a website on the way.
Yes, one of our employees is involved with it, and honestly we arent to happy about the way she went about it behind our backs and contacting people that we are in business with. I am sure that their goal is to get XDL, Stuntwars, and who ever else aboard and in the end they will be the ones who organized the sport and help the riders. Till they approve their system with XDL, Stuntwars, Stuntfest etc. The way I see it is, talk with a website on the way.
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Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
Apex hit the nail on the head but hypothetically speaking if their sole reason for existing was to match ones earnings $for$ in whatever(XDL Starboys ect ect) competition in which they competed and made the finals would you pay their fee and join?
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Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
Apex hit the nail on the head but hypothetically speaking if their sole reason for existing was to match ones earnings $for$ in whatever(XDL Starboys ect ect) competition in which they competed and made the finals would you pay their fee and join?
i don't see it happening anytime soon...plus then you have the shady events...
plus...y'all don't find it a little funny that these people who want to start something like this only post it on myspace and not here, or any other site for that matter?
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Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
Think about it like this. WSRA says it wants to do the following for us.
Get an event origination that generally has X amount set as prize money to give more.
Persuade a company that participates in our sport and has X budget for X riders to pitch in for contingencies.
SO:
In order to get more money from either one of those entities would result in two ways.
WSRA would have to negotiate higher payouts on our behalf of its members. But how? By saying WSRA members wont compete unless X payout are available. Or by saying WSRA wont endorse the event.
In other words, not without the core professionals standing behind it WSRA can it pull more money from an event. And being an open invite members club is not going to work. Why would it? Would you as an acting professional rider that did 40 events last year and placed top 5 at a few contests want to be associated as equals with Mr. Powerwheelie? Hell no, it only hurts the professional rider. AMA pro cards are not given out because you own a bike and race a couple times a year.
So now lets talk about contingencies. Lets take something like a helmet company. SMF cycles (craft helmets) runs a program independently. In fact MANY MANY companies have contingency programs setup. And if something like WSRA was to setup additional companies to pitch in, how would it really help its members? It wouldn't, because all the top riders on the podiums now days already have the key sponsors. And if someone like AMSOIL wants to put up a contingency they would work directly with a contest series like XDL, again like SMF. I doubt they would use WSRA as its avenue to create the program. Also, you'll be fucked if you think you're going to get a sticker on a bike that X company pays X dollars for just to hope for 150 bucks for a first place finish. Contingencies only work in AM events, and we don't have them.
Lastly, about the numbers thing. WORST IDEA EVER. Why? Because the way a number system has merit is because you're placing in your series. So if XDL runs a numbers series next year and the champion gets offered the #1 number plate that would be great. Because then you could approach a comapany and say look I'm the #1 plate holder and US national champion, pay me. I bet Darius would be thrilled to be number 489 while Jeff from Ohio holds the #1 plate in the prestigious WSRA.
FOR THE RIDERS BY THE RIDERS. If not we're ****** patsies.
Get an event origination that generally has X amount set as prize money to give more.
Persuade a company that participates in our sport and has X budget for X riders to pitch in for contingencies.
SO:
In order to get more money from either one of those entities would result in two ways.
WSRA would have to negotiate higher payouts on our behalf of its members. But how? By saying WSRA members wont compete unless X payout are available. Or by saying WSRA wont endorse the event.
In other words, not without the core professionals standing behind it WSRA can it pull more money from an event. And being an open invite members club is not going to work. Why would it? Would you as an acting professional rider that did 40 events last year and placed top 5 at a few contests want to be associated as equals with Mr. Powerwheelie? Hell no, it only hurts the professional rider. AMA pro cards are not given out because you own a bike and race a couple times a year.
So now lets talk about contingencies. Lets take something like a helmet company. SMF cycles (craft helmets) runs a program independently. In fact MANY MANY companies have contingency programs setup. And if something like WSRA was to setup additional companies to pitch in, how would it really help its members? It wouldn't, because all the top riders on the podiums now days already have the key sponsors. And if someone like AMSOIL wants to put up a contingency they would work directly with a contest series like XDL, again like SMF. I doubt they would use WSRA as its avenue to create the program. Also, you'll be fucked if you think you're going to get a sticker on a bike that X company pays X dollars for just to hope for 150 bucks for a first place finish. Contingencies only work in AM events, and we don't have them.
Lastly, about the numbers thing. WORST IDEA EVER. Why? Because the way a number system has merit is because you're placing in your series. So if XDL runs a numbers series next year and the champion gets offered the #1 number plate that would be great. Because then you could approach a comapany and say look I'm the #1 plate holder and US national champion, pay me. I bet Darius would be thrilled to be number 489 while Jeff from Ohio holds the #1 plate in the prestigious WSRA.
FOR THE RIDERS BY THE RIDERS. If not we're ****** patsies.
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Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
nick speaks wisdom as does tom & nascency.
for something so impoetant & potentially revolutionary, how come not a single person actually involved in the sport know nething about it?
no press release, just some coming across this info on myspace....
sounds like bs.
& besides, I already have my # picked out for 08....& its number 1!....& I don't gotta sit by my computer to get it either....happy chasing #2 everyone! lol
for something so impoetant & potentially revolutionary, how come not a single person actually involved in the sport know nething about it?
no press release, just some coming across this info on myspace....
sounds like bs.
& besides, I already have my # picked out for 08....& its number 1!....& I don't gotta sit by my computer to get it either....happy chasing #2 everyone! lol
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Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
nick speaks wisdom as does tom & nascency.
for something so impoetant & potentially revolutionary, how come not a single person actually involved in the sport know nething about it?
no press release, just some coming across this info on myspace....
sounds like bs.
& besides, I already have my # picked out for 08....& its number 1!....& I don't gotta sit by my computer to get it either....happy chasing #2 everyone! lol
for something so impoetant & potentially revolutionary, how come not a single person actually involved in the sport know nething about it?
no press release, just some coming across this info on myspace....
sounds like bs.
& besides, I already have my # picked out for 08....& its number 1!....& I don't gotta sit by my computer to get it either....happy chasing #2 everyone! lol
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From: URFACE, ca
Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
Are you saying like an Exhaust supplier paying $500 if the winner of an event used their pipe or a helmet company paying out $1000 if the winning rider wore their helmet?
Without the riders paying in?
In exchange the suppliers get the rewards competitors buying their product in hopes of winning and reap the rewards of added exposure.
What a cool idea.
Without the riders paying in?
In exchange the suppliers get the rewards competitors buying their product in hopes of winning and reap the rewards of added exposure.
What a cool idea.
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Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
This is the same things that the NSRA, WSBA and Every other RA has been talking about for over 5 years.
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/2-s...actioning+body
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/2-s...actioning+body
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From: Las Vegas NV
Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
nick speaks wisdom as does tom & nascency.
for something so impoetant & potentially revolutionary, how come not a single person actually involved in the sport know nething about it?
no press release, just some coming across this info on myspace....
sounds like bs.
& besides, I already have my # picked out for 08....& its number 1!....& I don't gotta sit by my computer to get it either....happy chasing #2 everyone! lol
for something so impoetant & potentially revolutionary, how come not a single person actually involved in the sport know nething about it?
no press release, just some coming across this info on myspace....
sounds like bs.
& besides, I already have my # picked out for 08....& its number 1!....& I don't gotta sit by my computer to get it either....happy chasing #2 everyone! lol
gonna take more than heated grips to win on that pile
BTW heres a pic i took of your bike that still collecting dust at vortex!
-kane
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Re: Wsra Stepped Up!
Good **** right there finding that.
