F4i not starting when warmed up

Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

ya i can't read any of that but what i meant was the fly wheel tool
Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:53 AM
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

there is a fly wheel puller and a fly wheel holder ...
Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:55 AM
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

looks like you may save your self some time and just change the whole fly wheel with the starter clutch installed
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by old man roger
there is a fly wheel puller and a fly wheel holder ...
it mentions both the holder and puller. Okay I gotta buy those or see if I can borrow them from a friend.
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

i don't know i can't read the manual
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by old man roger
looks like you may save your self some time and just change the whole fly wheel with the starter clutch installed
when i pull the flywheel out - all that **** is attached to it? is that what you mean?
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by old man roger
looks like you may save your self some time and just change the whole fly wheel with the starter clutch installed
Originally Posted by OnEWhEeLNEAL
it mentions both the holder and puller. Okay I gotta buy those or see if I can borrow them from a friend.
you may only need the puller
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by old man roger
i don't know i can't read the manual
ill figure the **** out i guess tomorrow. thanks for your help
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by old man roger
you may only need the puller
so you mean pull the whole flywheel out and everything else will come with it, right?
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by OnEWhEeLNEAL
when i pull the flywheel out - all that **** is attached to it? is that what you mean?
thats what it looks like but i can't really tell by the manual because it is too blurry for me to read
Old Nov 26, 2008 | 03:59 AM
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by old man roger
thats what it looks like but i can't really tell by the manual because it is too blurry for me to read
got it. i think youre right tho. Ill let you know how it goes and hopefully this fixed the ****** problem
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by joey1
it kinda sounds like the starter clutch to me. had that happen on a quad and once i changed it started perfect every time. pain to get to cause its behind the flywheel. also on my f4i i changed the stator cover and didnt have a gasket so i used liquid gasket now when its hot it cranks a little slower but always starts.
Originally Posted by joey1
it's not in the starter motor it's inside the stator cover behind the flywheel.
thank this guy if it works ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

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thank this guy if it works ^^^^^^^^^^^^
lol ill thank both of you off to bed. later.
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

100% not the starter clutch

the starter clutch is bunch of metal pieces that will only let it spin in one direction, if that clutch is bad u will hear the starter motor free spin. or grind against broken metal peices

u push the button and the motor does turn over that eliminates it being the starter clutch rite there.....

in the video all it soundz like it a dying battery ( from the video ) i havent gotten a chance to actually look @ it yet tho.


plus the fact that his bike worked 100% perfectly before the motor swap would eliminate EVERYTHING but the motor and components inside the motor.
the only reason for this swap was a cracked lower case.

Now ya also did the motor swap urself right?? i mean any number of things could have gone wrong while ya put it in crushing sensors cutting wires plus all the things u swapped i mean ****.. could be anything at this point


(liquid gasket is a no no when u have a tiny little oil pickup that can easily get clogged n seize a motor)

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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

iono if its just me but i had a problem on my car when i went big turbo and my CPS (cam position sensor) went and i dont know if these bikes have anything like this but in a very similar way that happend to me via car.
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by Nick1000
100% not the starter clutch

the starter clutch is bunch of metal pieces that will only let it spin in one direction, if that clutch is bad u will hear the starter motor free spin. or grind against broken metal peices

u push the button and the motor does turn over that eliminates it being the starter clutch rite there.....

in the video all it soundz like it a dying battery ( from the video ) i havent gotten a chance to actually look @ it yet tho.


plus the fact that his bike worked 100% perfectly before the motor swap would eliminate EVERYTHING but the motor and components inside the motor.
the only reason for this swap was a cracked lower case.

Now ya also did the motor swap urself right?? i mean any number of things could have gone wrong while ya put it in crushing sensors cutting wires plus all the things u swapped i mean ****.. could be anything at this point


(liquid gasket is a no no when u have a tiny little oil pickup that can easily get clogged n seize a motor)
I had help putting the motor in from coletti - mineola crew. he's done a bunch of motor swaps and we were pretty careful putting it in as to not crush sensors and having wires get stuck etc. I did use gasket maker for the ape cct only coz i didnt have a gasket handy and i wanted to get right back on the road a month later lol and here i am oh and i didnt put the stuntex on this motor so i never took off the oil pan and never had to use gasket maker on the pan. 29th it is bro. ill holla at you next week. where ive waited this long another week or two isnt gonna kill me. i just dont wanna shell out the guap for another motor and then have to go through the hassle of selling this motor if i could avoid it lemme know if you hit the spot this weekend. ill come out to get some video and just to watch some wheelies coz im bored out of my mind.
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by *trix*
iono if its just me but i had a problem on my car when i went big turbo and my CPS (cam position sensor) went and i dont know if these bikes have anything like this but in a very similar way that happend to me via car.
huh??? hows the wheelies comin along?
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Originally Posted by OnEWhEeLNEAL
huh??? hows the wheelies comin along?
he is saying he had the same symptoms with his car as your having with your bike and it was his cam sensor
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Re: F4i not starting when warmed up

Originally Posted by OnEWhEeLNEAL
huh??? hows the wheelies comin along?
the wheelies are good lol if I had my bike back with the front brake they would be better but I can do slow sitdowns and standups forever now but I am attempting to get idle wheelies and its a pain in the ***. and I meant what old man roger explained its like the same symtoms I had for my car but I also could be completely off iono. Jimmy said you had a brake bleeder also and were comming out this week. I wanted to ask if there was any possible way you could bring that with you, or help a brother out and swing past cause im not far from him and if anything ill throw you a 20 spot or treat you to some lunch lemme know or PM me
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the wheelies are good lol if I had my bike back with the front brake they would be better but I can do slow sitdowns and standups forever now but I am attempting to get idle wheelies and its a pain in the ***. and I meant what old man roger explained its like the same symtoms I had for my car but I also could be completely off iono. Jimmy said you had a brake bleeder also and were comming out this week. I wanted to ask if there was any possible way you could bring that with you, or help a brother out and swing past cause im not far from him and if anything ill throw you a 20 spot or treat you to some lunch lemme know or PM me
word. i gotta find the mityvac i have but its in my garage somewhere. And I dont want no dough. I'll try my best to get your brakes bled so you could ride coz I cant so we both shouldnt suffer lol.

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