I'm riding my 03 636, and specific experience with a 636 would be most appropriate. I know I'm not doing things properly, I'm looking to get wheelies a little better. I can ride power wheelies and clutched wheelies in first with no problem, but I think it's far too tourquie in first to really have fun with right now. Plus it tacs out instantly. I can ride in 2nd gear from 20 mph - about 95 over 1/4 mile or so, but I guess I'm chasing the balance point. I've been trying to cover my brake, but I don't control my wheelies with it much, just save my ***. I find it hard to ride on it. Seriously, how far back can I go safely with my stock gearing? I see all this crazy **** with the 12's and I just don't get it. If I'm doing 40 mph and I 12, can I always bring it back down by using my rear brake? What if I straddle step and come up quick in first? Will my bike stay up easily?

My next problem is 3rd gear wheelies. I can ride a wheelie consistently every time in second gear, yet I can very rarely get it up in 3rd. I dump the hell outta the clutch (I do slip it properly) trying to get it up in 3rd. My bike has 4500 miles on it and I seriously believe the clutch slips in 3rd. Could this be possible, or do other guys have a tough time in 3rd with their 636? For the record, the few times I bring it up in 3rd, I did hang em' out. I'm not a puss, just new to streetbikes. Talk to me in 6 months, I'm gonna try to have stories to share.

 

Go hard dude sorry no experiance on the 636 bout the only thing i can say is practice practice practice but make sure its within your own limit personnly i dont attempt something untill im confident i can pull it off and im normally sit focus on my tarmac block every one out go through what could go wrong first make sure im ready for it then attempt it. Good luck dude

 

we have a guy on our team who stunts an 05 636 with stock gearing, so it can be done, but he is gonna sprocket it cause he's 6 3 @ 250, so it does pull up real easy, but it pulls him up in high chairs, so don't see why you would have a problem doing a staggered 3rd. Sounds like more practice is needed which was already said. Just be sure you are not still on the clutch when it's up, caught myself doing that a few times........

 

Considering that the half of this forum that doesn't stunt F4i's stunt 636's geared in all sorts of different ways suggest that the bike will wheelie fine which leaves the operator as the problem. Not busting your chops, just letting you know the facts. I'm learning too and am no master of wheelies but I do know this, practice is key. I would suggest not worrying about third gear for the time being. I also wouldn't worry so much about second gear either. I messed with second gear for a long time on my TLR and while I got semi proficient on it I never really learned to wheelie properly. Since then I rode fiddy's a lot and learned how to wheelie them, that gave me a basis for stepping up to a bigger bike. One of the best things I've done to help my wheelie skills besides practicing on the fiddy is to practice first gear stuff in lots. I'm doing it on a DRZ which makes it a whole different game than a 636 but what I am doing is drilling the basics in my head which will help me out when I switch to a stunt piece. So here is my two cents on what I have learned so far, in a first gear slow wheelie you have all the elements of a fast second gear wheelie but in my opinion it takes more skill, faster wheelies take skill to, don't get me wrong, but when you are doing 20mph - 95mph your brain is going to be going a million miles an hour and you it will take you longer to learn balance point, rear brake and throttle control with the scenery blowing by you at mach ten. I know a lot of people on here learned fast first and moved on to slow stuff and I don't want to speak for them but in my opinion its a lot harder that way. So then, my suggestion is this, find a lot to practice in. Practice first gear sitting, standing and any other way you like. Learn the rear brake so it is second nature, learn the balance point of the bike so you know how far is too far, learn throttle control so you can bring it back up when the brake brings it down. Learn it all until you can ride first gear as far as you want as slow or fast as you want. Then, switch it up to second and third and you will find that it is easier and safer because you are total control of the bike. Oh yeah, and learn with the clutch.

 

You guy's are long winded...... Thats too much to read!

 

i learned as he said, fast to slow, and believe that it is harder, not really sure why, one of my boys started from slow, he just went to a lot and practiced catching it at twelve over and over and over and over till he got it down, then focused on riding it out, sad thing is , he could park it on twelve better than i, but not ride it for distance for awhile, but now he's got mad skill and can go for days, alot has to depend on what kind of dedication you have to practicing, not one person just woke up and said, i'm gonna ride a 2 mile wheelie today, it takes practice, practice and more practice to get the skill down. I F@ck everyday and still don't think i'm a pro yet

 

and you cant be scared of your pretty bike getting fudged up either

 

holy s hit thats alot of typin
i didnt read nothin after the first 2 words Rhino typed

 

i did cant tell you what it says now though

 

Woot Woot Whitey. WTF, this is a computer text forum, what else do you want here? I read some of your posts and although they are shorter in duration, they have more mispelled words and improper grammer in them than my retarded 10 year old cousin's book reports. Eat your F'n Ridylin and shut up. Then you can buy some friends, form a team, and then ride with me.
Don't even reply to me, I'm more concerned with learning my petty 3rd gear wheelies. If I want comeback from you, I'll wipe it off your chin.


OK, for the record... I can ride 3rd gear with absolutely no problem for about my first 5 attempts, then my clutch starts slipping. I adjust it in and out, it doesn't get better than where it is now. I rode a friend's 05 636 for the first time yesterday and 3rd gear wheelies were as simple as 1st and 2nd gear wheelies. Not that I'm good at what I'm doing right now, but at least I know it's my clutch now. I rode alot of slower stuff too in first. I can ride a wheelie for a 1/4 mile now without exceeding 30mph in first, although I still can't slow 2nd gear down at all.

 

keep practicing. In 10 days you'll like third better than second.... then starts the loop of perfecting first again.... it's a fvckin circle....