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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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Re: SS O's

Originally Posted by Vetter
ill keep it updated. my cruncky piece gets out of jail tomorrow morning.

im gonna go hit the lot sunday night.

i could dip whenever i wanted. im sure now the reason i come up and out is that i dont keep the wegith on that foot.

so keep weight on left foot the whole time during lefty SS Os?
You don't put all your weight on your inside foot.. You are just unintentionally doing it cuz the bike is leaning to one side.. Example - get a piece of wood of some sort and set it up at a 45 degree angle like if you were doing a circle, and stand on it and your weight will be on your inside foot, because of how its leaned if that makes any sense. Just don't intentionally put weight on your outside foot and you should be fine.

This sh*t is all mental, and muscle memory gained by practice, and repition. The tips in here help a little but it won't teach you. You just got to go out there and practice until you get it. It might take you 6 days or maybe 6months!
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Re: SS O's

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You don't put all your weight on your inside foot.. You are just unintentionally doing it cuz the bike is leaning to one side.. Example - get a piece of wood of some sort and set it up at a 45 degree angle like if you were doing a circle, and stand on it and your weight will be on your inside foot, because of how its leaned if that makes any sense. Just don't intentionally put weight on your outside foot and you should be fine.

This sh*t is all mental, and muscle memory gained by practice, and repition. The tips in here help a little but it won't teach you. You just got to go out there and practice until you get it. It might take you 6 days or maybe 6months!

thanks man. every little bit helps. its all about seat time i know this.

but it was snowing a little tonight so i dont know how much seat time ill even have before we get accumulation.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Re: SS O's

Here's another re I made in another thread that may also be helpful.

Your feet position is all fcked up. You have your feet together wich is good for strait wheelies but not circles. Put your heels on the edge of the passenger seat and your toes pointed outwards on the regular seat. Should help keep you more loose, stable, and able to bend your knees easier.

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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Re: SS O's

I like that post very much
i've only ever got 1 out. i can get half and 1/4 all the time. i can now see what i'm doin wrong, so next time out i'm goin read this post again and go ptactice.

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Re: SS O's

Originally Posted by mikkee
You don't put all your weight on your inside foot.. You are just unintentionally doing it cuz the bike is leaning to one side.. Example - get a piece of wood of some sort and set it up at a 45 degree angle like if you were doing a circle, and stand on it and your weight will be on your inside foot, because of how its leaned if that makes any sense. Just don't intentionally put weight on your outside foot and you should be fine.

This sh*t is all mental, and muscle memory gained by practice, and repition. The tips in here help a little but it won't teach you. You just got to go out there and practice until you get it. It might take you 6 days or maybe 6months!
how long dit take you?
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also i ride with lee and cant even do a quarter ha ha
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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how long dit take you?
Well I started when I started this thread, the end of May, and had em pretty locked in getting 3-4 everytime by the end of September. A month and a half between there my bike was down, so roughly it took me 3mo, practicing only 2-3 days a week max to get em.

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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Re: SS O's

Originally Posted by ct954
How did you get over fighting the bike when dipping it in on ss circles. I'm fighting it and cannot stop. I 've been out 4 or 5 times and still nothing. I can dip it but my body fights it. How long before you were over this... I dip and counter steer it straight. If i just let it go i would be good but its a refex....Thanks for all the info. I apperciate it alot......
Honestly, I probably went about 5 or 6, 2hr sessions doing nothing but 1/8th turns and coming out cuz it just didn't feel right, which it shouldn't. Leaning your bike over sideways isn't a natural feeling and the only way to get used to it is to keep on doing it. Just like learning 12's it felt wierd going back past the balance point but after awhile it was easy clutching right up to 12 right?

My suggestion is to turn you idle up a little from where you normally run it for idle wheelies, the little higher idle will help pull the bike around and let you feel what it's like to do 1/2, 3/4, 1 rotation, and also know the sweet spot and body position cuz you won't get 3/4 or 1 rotation not being in the sweet spot, while being on idle w/ out gassing it. Clutch up the SS, get it slow on idle, let it fall in and just feather the HB til it comes back on 2 wheels. Don't counter stear or transfer your weight to the outside. After doing this consistantly and feel comfortable doing 3/4 or 1 rotation JUST on idle and HB then you can take the next step in gassing it to keep the wheel up which you will understand exactly WHY and WHEN you NEED gas to do circle(S). Your crashes will be just little tip overs doing it this way. Once you get there turn your idle back to normal.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Re: SS O's

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Honestly, I probably went about 5 or 6, 2hr sessions doing nothing but 1/8th turns and coming out cuz it just didn't feel right, which it shouldn't. Leaning your bike over sideways isn't a natural feeling and the only way to get used to it is to keep on doing it. Just like learning 12's it felt wierd going back past the balance point but after awhile it was easy clutching right up to 12 right?

My suggestion is to turn you idle up a little from where you normally run it for idle wheelies, the little higher idle will help pull the bike around and let you feel what it's like to do 1/2, 3/4, 1 rotation, and also know the sweet spot and body position cuz you won't get 3/4 or 1 rotation not being in the sweet spot, while being on idle w/ out gassing it. Clutch up the SS, get it slow on idle, let it fall in and just feather the HB til it comes back on 2 wheels. Don't counter stear or transfer your weight to the outside. After doing this consistantly and feel comfortable doing 3/4 or 1 rotation JUST on idle and HB then you can take the next step in gassing it to keep the wheel up which you will understand exactly WHY and WHEN you NEED gas to do circle(S). Your crashes will be just little tip overs doing it this way. Once you get there turn your idle back to normal.
good tips.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Re: SS O's

Great info on here. I know it's all about practice but I didn't know that SS was all about throttle and lower idle. Now is time to practice that way.

Thanks for the tips.
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Even now I can't come up with any better tips. Just keep doing it until you get it..
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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hell yeah this thread is great ima start these this weekend...
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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hell yeah this thread is great ima start these this weekend...
Better than jumping to ballsak I guess.
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Better than jumping to ballsak I guess.


this is a public forum... and the public dont need to know about that.....

Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Lets hear the story
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seat stander to spreader jumped wrong and slammed down hard right on the lip of my tank..... smashed my nuts so hard i had tears comin out my eyes...
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I finally got ss O's. Not on lock but better then stagered. What I've learned is that its all push, pull and countersteering a little. My frustration is using too much brake and gas then having to muscle it around 5 times (push and pull). Yesturday I was able to do 3-4 with only brake. My idle is 2300-2500k rpm. I still cant really control it enough to do ralph louies but getting there. Now I gotta try going to the right before I get totally dependent on going left.
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Did u get that upper fairing?
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Did u get that upper fairing?
yup I appreciate it too. Cant wait to repair it and get to painting. You'll see it in action soon.
How's the 905 holding up??
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 287ridah
I finally got ss O's. Not on lock but better then stagered. What I've learned is that its all push, pull and countersteering a little. My frustration is using too much brake and gas then having to muscle it around 5 times (push and pull). Yesturday I was able to do 3-4 with only brake. My idle is 2300-2500k rpm. I still cant really control it enough to do ralph louies but getting there. Now I gotta try going to the right before I get totally dependent on going left.
Yeah when i was just getting them I was constantly moving, changing my body position, pulling, and basically fighting it to keep em going. My arms would be killing me! Just keep on doing them and they'll start getting smooth, then you can start trying combos.



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