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Old May 25, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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I searched for a thread on SS O's with no luck. I swear I've seen it before. If anyone has a link that would be appreciated. Otherwise I'll start asking.
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Re: SS O's

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I searched for a thread on SS O's with no luck. I swear I've seen it before. If anyone has a link that would be appreciated. Otherwise I'll start asking.
Low idle
All your weight on the inside foot
keep the nose low
GAS
Old May 25, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Re: SS O's

I'm on a gixx 750 +14 a little twitchy. I can do 5+ ft dn circles so I understand the concept of brake body position to dip in and gas to push through but can't really apply it to any other circle.

I was working them last night going to the left. I see that my idle may have been a little high. I was running about 2800 idle.

Any suggestions for about what idle to run given my gearing and 750?

I'd get the SS stable on idle and dip it by pushing the bike away from my body with my arms, and shifting my body to the right side of the bike. I'd get barely an 1/8th of a turn, and then my body position felt way off, I was fighting it, and I would just put it back on 2 wheels cuz it didn't feel right, and I knew I was doing something wrong. I remember I wasn't looking into it cuz I was working on body position. Maybe that will help.

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Re: SS O's

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Low idle
All your weight on the inside foot
keep the nose low
GAS
Thanks I'll try to apply that!
Old May 25, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Anyone else doing ss o's on a heavy pig gixxer that can throw their
Old May 25, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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Re: SS O's

if all ur weight is on ur inside foot and u feel like ur leaning in, u hafta keep givin it gas, cus itll never catch idle, but when u get ur body position so that u feel like ur on top of the bike itll catch idle and just use gas/brake accordingly......also when u turn in have ur bars turned all teh way to the left, and try to keep em there or straight, when the biek starts to highside turn em to the right, this will let u push the bike back down into the circle.....ym prob was is i wud come into them with the bars already turned to the right, and when it wud highside i wud have no adjustment left....2500rpm idle sounds about right
Old May 25, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Re: SS O's

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if all ur weight is on ur inside foot and u feel like ur leaning in, u hafta keep givin it gas, cus itll never catch idle, but when u get ur body position so that u feel like ur on top of the bike itll catch idle and just use gas/brake accordingly......also when u turn in have ur bars turned all teh way to the left, and try to keep em there or straight, when the biek starts to highside turn em to the right, this will let u push the bike back down into the circle.....ym prob was is i wud come into them with the bars already turned to the right, and when it wud highside i wud have no adjustment left....2500rpm idle sounds about right
Alright - so from what you said my understanding is that I'll go in on idle (around 2,500) in position on top of the bike(my head up over the windscreen/headlight) transfer all my weight to my left leg and turn the bars to the left to start turning in - then gas brake accordingly and the only other adjustment with my body should be to turn bars to the right if I feel a high side to bring it back in while staying centered on top of the bike??
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Re: SS O's

*** messing with the bars learning just stay loose. if you srtaighten up it will highside. you want to put weight on the inside foot and go with the bike if you fight it it will highside also.
Old May 26, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Re: SS O's

Originally Posted by Z-UNIT
if all ur weight is on ur inside foot and u feel like ur leaning in, u hafta keep givin it gas, cus itll never catch idle, but when u get ur body position so that u feel like ur on top of the bike itll catch idle and just use gas/brake accordingly......also when u turn in have ur bars turned all teh way to the left, and try to keep em there or straight, when the biek starts to highside turn em to the right, this will let u push the bike back down into the circle.....ym prob was is i wud come into them with the bars already turned to the right, and when it wud highside i wud have no adjustment left....2500rpm idle sounds about right
damn z unit you give some good advise sometimes
just starting them myself and this about answered every question
Old May 29, 2006 | 03:48 AM
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Well I finally got out today to work on the SS O's. Didn't go too well the first day - of course. Never got past the 1st quarter turn.
It really feels awkward putting all of your weight on your left leg and leaning in like that while in a SS.

I pitched one in going too slo.. Stalled it.. It through me somewhat over the left clip-on smacking the top of my right thy on the corner of my windshield. (ears cut off) Wow... never thought my windshield could cause that much pain! Pretty much feels like someone took a full swing w/ a baseball bat too my thy! rashed up my knee, elbow, and I'm limpin around pretty good. Going to have to take a few days off to let it heal up - Good times

I'll be back out there again this week to try again though. It's already looking like this may take more than a couple weeks to have on lock!
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I get mine up past bp and let the engine brake brake before I turn into the circle.Bars turned in the direction of the circle and my feet are outward with most the pressure on the inside foot.keep the bike up blurp the gas when in start's ta come down and apply brake.Once you can turn the ss circle in it only get's easier.
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Re: SS O's

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Well I finally got out today to work on the SS O's. Didn't go too well the first day - of course. Never got past the 1st quarter turn.
It really feels awkward putting all of your weight on your left leg and leaning in like that while in a SS.

I pitched one in going too slo.. Stalled it.. It through me somewhat over the left clip-on smacking the top of my right thy on the corner of my windshield. (ears cut off) Wow... never thought my windshield could cause that much pain! Pretty much feels like someone took a full swing w/ a baseball bat too my thy! rashed up my knee, elbow, and I'm limpin around pretty good. Going to have to take a few days off to let it heal up - Good times

I'll be back out there again this week to try again though. It's already looking like this may take more than a couple weeks to have on lock!
pick up some full length shin guards. the tank is gonna put a beating on your lower legs learning this trick.
Old May 30, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Re: SS O's

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pick up some full length shin guards. the tank is gonna put a beating on your lower legs learning this trick.
Yep - I have them already, just didn't have them on Sun. I will definately have them with me when I go back out. My legs are feeling close to normal and I'm not limping anymore, so I'll be back out to give it a go again today.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Re: SS O's

Well it's been about 2mo now here's where I'm at..

Running idle about 3,000. I'm pitching it in on idle, and can get 1 rotation pretty consistantly - all handbrake.. Haven't blurped the gas in the circle yet.. I can't really put a finger on when the right time is to gas it a little.

Any thoughts??
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Re: SS O's

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Well it's been about 2mo now here's where I'm at..

Running idle about 3,000. I'm pitching it in on idle, and can get 1 rotation pretty consistantly - all handbrake.. Haven't blurped the gas in the circle yet.. I can't really put a finger on when the right time is to gas it a little.

Any thoughts??
Gas it when your front wheel starts heading for the ground. With that much idle I dont know that you'll ever need to gas it.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Re: SS O's

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Gas it when your front wheel starts heading for the ground. With that much idle I dont know that you'll ever need to gas it.
That's exactly what I figured.. Turn down my idle a little and gas it when it seems like it's going to fall.. There shouldn't be any reason to gas it if your in the sweet spot and turning.. If you do, you'll more than likely come out of the circle or highside right??
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Re: SS O's

Well I'm back! ha ha

Been down for the last month or so with bike damage, but just got it up and running again last week, and am now keeping it in, gassing through each 1/4 turn and getting a rotation or two consistantly once warmed up! Surprisingly haven't crashed as much as I thought I would learning this... Just a little more repetition here this month and will more than likely be able to start moving around on the bike possiably in the circle..

So it took me about 2 and a half months of on and off practice, minus the month my bike was broke from when I started this thread late May to learn it.. I thought it was going to take longer from what other people have said... Fun stuff! :YEAH

Thanks for the imput for those who posted!
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Re: SS O's

3grand is way to high... i can keep em going (but choppy) with NO idle at all. 2-2500 is about right.

+1 with suicidl, fvck that bar ****.

+1 with mikem on the shin pads. i hit mine all the time, im love my icon ones.


and you said in an earlier post that you were gettin one alll handbrake. you really dont need it that much at all.
Old Sep 11, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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3grand is way to high... i can keep em going (but choppy)
and you said in an earlier post that you were gettin one alll handbrake. you really dont need it that much at all.
I'm doing them at 3000, my idle won't stay between 2000-2500 so I have to use the HB.. ha ha

Your right you probably don't use the HB much when your idle is lower.. The engine brake probably does the same thing as what I'm doing running 3000 using the HB.. I know what you mean though I just can't get my idle to run lower and stay there..

As forr getting one all HB that is hard as fuc!! That's like 1 out of 30, you have to turn in perfect and use just enought brake to bring it around without dropping the nose and no gas.. I just did that at the time cuz I didn't understand when i needed to gas it like I do now.
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Re: SS O's

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I'm doing them at 3000, my idle won't stay between 2000-2500 so I have to use the HB.. ha ha

Your right you probably don't use the HB much when your idle is lower.. The engine brake probably does the same thing as what I'm doing running 3000 using the HB.. I know what you mean though I just can't get my idle to run lower and stay there..

As forr getting one all HB that is hard as fuc!! That's like 1 out of 30, you have to turn in perfect and use just enought brake to bring it around without dropping the nose and no gas.. I just did that at the time cuz I didn't understand when i needed to gas it like I do now.
thats because ss's arent about idle... its about GAS



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