How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by austin-stunter
yo when i come up to fast in a 1st gear clutch wheelie, the bike slams the 12 bar baounces back then just goes right back down to two wheels. i just step off, and sometimes i can run and save it before the bike slids to the pavement. im getting pretty good at it, if i didnt have a 12 bar the black light would be broke and the bike would land on top of its self almost weekly.
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by austin-stunter
yo when i come up to fast in a 1st gear clutch wheelie, the bike slams the 12 bar baounces back then just goes right back down to two wheels. i just step off, and sometimes i can run and save it before the bike slids to the pavement. im getting pretty good at it, if i didnt have a 12 bar the black light would be broke and the bike would land on top of its self almost weekly.
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
my god.. gorilla scraping is NOT a stunt.. ppl always try to learn to scrape first.. learn idle first, and get good with brake, then everything else comes easy... well i don't wanna play with the clutch in circles.. i'm trying to learn every other trick possible before i start learning them..
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by crtchrktrcr
my god.. gorilla scraping is NOT a stunt.. ppl always try to learn to scrape first.. learn idle first, and get good with brake, then everything else comes easy... well i don't wanna play with the clutch in circles.. i'm trying to learn every other trick possible before i start learning them..
i guess im new to stunting, how is gorilla scraping not a stunt?
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by crtchrktrcr
my god.. gorilla scraping is NOT a stunt..
u know if i'm not arguing with you about something youre a pretty funny guy.
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by N*A*M
you have a rear brake, use it.
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by austin-stunter
yeah its good advice, but a 12 bar is a saftey net for your back light. It takes alot of practice to master the rear brake. If you dont have alot of experience at the BP, its hard to tell if you are going backwards.
i dont even know how to wheelie yet. but i think youre learning the wrong way
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
slow motion makes everything look smooth.... what you need to do is not clutch it so hard.. and ease the brake on.. overpower it with gas, you'll realize everything then
oh,, and it's NOT a stunt cuz it takes NO talent... it's crashing.. that's not hard to do
oh,, and it's NOT a stunt cuz it takes NO talent... it's crashing.. that's not hard to do
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Start with sit downs 1st gear power up after you have racked some sattle time until then don't try unless your geared up. I ride an f2 to stunt and a 929 everyday and can power them both in first and second its all about body english. Throw your wieght around!
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by austin-stunter
start with power wheelie.. just get the front a couple of inches of the ground to get a feel for the bike.... then get higher as you feel more comfortable... soon you should be powerin 2 second gear wheelies with no problem... if you start with clutchin it in 1st gear you will loop the bike without a 12 bar .... clutching a 1st gear wheelie is way harder on you and the bike. Also any jack *** can do a power wheelie, nothing to it, just lean back.... and get over the fear of falling backwards.
believe me right now im learning to rock a wheelie on the BP in 1st gear.. way harder then powering in 2nd.... i couldnt count the number of times my 12 bar saved the bike tryin slow wheelies.
believe me right now im learning to rock a wheelie on the BP in 1st gear.. way harder then powering in 2nd.... i couldnt count the number of times my 12 bar saved the bike tryin slow wheelies.
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by austin-stunter
yo when i come up to fast in a 1st gear clutch wheelie, the bike slams the 12 bar baounces back then just goes right back down to two wheels. i just step off, and sometimes i can run and save it before the bike slids to the pavement. im getting pretty good at it, if i didnt have a 12 bar the black light would be broke and the bike would land on top of its self almost weekly.
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From: Croatia (Europe)
Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by austin-stunter
yeah its good advice, but a 12 bar is a saftey net for your back light. It takes alot of practice to master the rear brake. If you dont have alot of experience at the BP, its hard to tell if you are going backwards.
From what you wrote here I'm getting a feel that you don't know a first thing about riding in general, not to mention stunting. 12 bar IS NOT a "safety net" or whatever you wanna call it, it is not ment to protect the tail - it is produced for bar tricks! If you do what you claim to do as a procedure of scraping you would already be familliar with the term "corkscrew" or "flying bike spinning in air like crazy" from your own experience. It really doesn't take much practice to get the RB enough to control the height, but this is subjective so I'm not arguing over this. If you do not have "alot experience at the BP" how the hell do you make yourself go over - the human psyhology wouldn't let you - you could do it once, but that would be the last time you would attempt something like that until you learned RB control...
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From: Austin, texas
Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
yeah this is out of control..
anyways im glad a put a 12 bar on when trying to learn slow wheelies...i still slam the 12 bar now and agian when i change my body position coming up in 1st gear. I just dont have enough practice with all the different stances in a wheelie yet... thats all there is too it, yeah i might be using a 12 bar right now for different reasons then you would. But it doesnt make either of us wrong
anyways im glad a put a 12 bar on when trying to learn slow wheelies...i still slam the 12 bar now and agian when i change my body position coming up in 1st gear. I just dont have enough practice with all the different stances in a wheelie yet... thats all there is too it, yeah i might be using a 12 bar right now for different reasons then you would. But it doesnt make either of us wrong
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by r6nitup
on stock gearing on my 05 r6, im rockin idle at like 3800-4000 rpm, cover that rear brake
idle is not hard, rear brake is not hard.. all you need to do is develop faith in the rear brake and trust it... i can clutch it as hard as i want, throw a coaster back as fast as i want.. and it doesn't matter.. cuz i have rear brake and i know it
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Originally Posted by bruno_z
how's bar going to help him not to loop?
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Re: How should I attempt 1st wheelie? Clutch or power?
Your R6 will power wheelie very easily in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear (ok 3rd you probably will have to bounce the forks.) In first all you gotta do is start from a stop, let go of the gas momentarily and whack the throttle half-way back open again, and the front end will come up.
Practice that until you are ready to get into second gear and then you can learn clutch and back brake.
Practice that until you are ready to get into second gear and then you can learn clutch and back brake.
