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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Re: Ak-47

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OH, got those Glock 23c pics up.....and what's POG?
hahah person otherthan a GRUNT! POG.

Originally Posted by Pimpus Maximus
dude im not sayin the .223 is ideal for going to the 1k range especially when you got .308 and the other shoulder thumpers. But your trien to tell me that its not accurate ast 600. Might want to look into match shooting. Ive seen targets with 5" groups at 1k out of a .223. Granted its out of a sick rifle with a load thats been finetuned, but to say its not accurate or capable at 1000 is flatout wrong, and to say its not good past 600 is WAY wrong. Like I said stop confusing shooting these shitty *** military weapons to weapons you can tweak.

http://www.benchrest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45758


And POG is 'personnel otherthen grunts.' Your both army though soooooooooo whatever.

look here Mr. intel go fix my laptop !
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Re: Ak-47

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hahah person otherthan a GRUNT! POG.




look here Mr. intel go fix my laptop !
Last laptop in my possesion got run over by the HMMWV ARMY PIG!


Dont worry, a grunt in Intel is the worst kind..cause now I got the inside scoop before kickin yer ***. 0311 is still my primary bacon boy!












Im so not getting out of any ticket now when I get back to lejeune.....
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Re: Ak-47

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Last laptop in my possesion got run over by the HMMWV ARMY PIG!


Dont worry, a grunt in Intel is the worst kind..cause now I got the inside scoop before kickin yer ***. 0311 is still my primary bacon boy!


Im so not getting out of any ticket now when I get back to lejeune.....
hahah careful!

Nah man us Grunts got to stay together!

dont matter if you 0311 or 11bravo!

Grunt is a grunt
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Re: Ak-47

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hahah careful!

Nah man us Grunts got to stay together!

dont matter if you 0311 or 11bravo!

Grunt is a grunt
hah word. I think I got it the worst though mang, I catch **** from both ends of the sprectrum. If I say Im a grunt I get called a retarded bullet sponge, if I say Im in Intel Im a pog...cant win 'round here!
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Re: Ak-47

Originally Posted by Pimpus Maximus
annnnnnnnnnnnnd sorry if Im nitpicking but a sporter barrel can do everything a bullbarrel can, just not as fast

Dunno if ya picked up on it, but Im a marine so I like to argue especially when it comes to shooting.
Na man, i live with a Marine, and he's been away for a week so i had to find another to argue with..............it's a daily thing with me and him!!!!!! We one the same page, i got you.
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Re: Ak-47

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hah word. I think I got it the worst though mang, I catch **** from both ends of the sprectrum. If I say Im a grunt I get called a retarded bullet sponge, if I say Im in Intel Im a pog...cant win 'round here!
are you workin in S-4 or what?

guessin your not in the line company anymore
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Re: Ak-47

Originally Posted by Scott-
THANKS MAN YOU SOUND LIKE A MILITARY MAN ARE ANY OF ARE GUYS STILL USING THE M14
Only as a ceremonial weapon....funerals, awards stuff, etc. The M16 took over as the common field rifle, now the M4 is money, but i wouldn't mind putting one in my guncase.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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Re: Ak-47

Springfield M1a's All The Models Are Basically M14 Right Or In The Military Now Days The Call The M21 Right?
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Re: Ak-47

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Springfield M1a's All The Models Are Basically M14 Right Or In The Military Now Days The Call The M21 Right?
Think of it like this......

The Snipers now in the Army use what we call the M24.....basically a loaded up Remington 700, heavy match grade barrel, 10x fixed zoom optics, trigger less lbs pull, etc.

The Snipers used the M21 until i think the end of the Vietnam War, which was like a nice loaded up M1 or M14...just liike the Remington 700 is now.

But actually the Army is in a new phase, we're actually slowly doing away with all M24's and sticking just to the Barrett 50, instead of carrying both. Lets face it, the Barrett is heavy as **** like 25lbs before ammunition, but it can do all and more the M24 could
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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I'm not saying there aren't M21's around, but pretty rare. Same thing will happen with the M24. The Marines will prob follow suit with doing away with the M40, but due to having less finances, everything usually sticks around in the Marines a bit longer.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Ak-47

Originally Posted by Tucker R6!
are you workin in S-4 or what?

guessin your not in the line company anymore
Im in whats called ground sensor platoon. Never made it to the line company. our platoon is all 03's. We have to be because we actually leave the wire. It started out as SCAMP which was part of recon. We go out 'covertly' and emplace special sensors and cameras to gather info and intel. We break down into 4 man teams and each time gets its own AO. From there we support a designated line unit. So if we get a hit on a sensor or a camera, we inform the unit and they do what they gotta do from there. Theres only about 70 of us in the whole Corps but when we do it right its pretty tight ****. Fortunately Im on a good team now, and we have a pretty good time out here. I was with the central monitoring station and was a fobbit for a bit but got swapped out cause there was a shitbag on the team im on now. Fobbit no more!

Since I didnt make it to a line unit but still get to be an 03 I like to call myself grunt lite We're the smart grunts haha. They only pull them from school occasionally. For example, I was one of 4 in our class to go. We did get a lot of 0351s from school though. Others are grunts on their second enlistment, or from Security forces. It'll be my 3rd MOS so its not bad. Im hopin to get a 2nd pump in with intel and then go SF, scout sniper, or just straight up line unit.

As far as m14s, we still use them occasionally for designated marksmen. We have other 308 variants like the mk 11/sr25. Youll still see the m14 every now and then though.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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JP owns all, if you can afford it.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Re: Ak-47

so about how much would it cost to build a 223.....and what all would i need? sorry im kinda new at assault rifles....thanks for any help tho i appreciate it
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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Re: Ak-47

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so about how much would it cost to build a 223.....and what all would i need? sorry im kinda new at assault rifles....thanks for any help tho i appreciate it
i'd just buy a used Bushmaster or something........Bushmaster is a great brand, and you could find a very nice unscratched one for like 7-8 hundred prob with some extra ammo or some stuff.
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Re: Ak-47

an AK is an AK.....just how refined you want it....my "cheap" Romanian AK can hit headshots out to 100 yards and center mass out to maybe 175 yards. The sights on the AK's and the movement of the barrel from the violent action of the gas piston with each shot make the AK's accuracy lacking. Watch the internet clip of AK v. M16 and you can actually see the barrel flex with each shot!

AR platform is inherently more accurate, even when chambered for 7.62x39, or 9mm.....the gas impingement system has no violent action from a gas piston since there isnt one. On the negative side, the gas impingement system is a "***** where it eats" system blowing gas back into the receiver to move the bolt back. Follow up shots are always more accurate with AR type rifles since the recoil buffer and spring are perfectly in line with your shoulder, reducing muzzle rise.

When comparing the rounds.....we have alot of GI's coming home with injuries from 7.62x39 rounds, and we KILL alot of people with the 5.56x45 round. The 7.62 round makes a nice THUD and knocks stuff down (I shot a deer FIVE times, he dropped each time, but still was able to run off...all shots were center mass at 75 yards with iron sights). The 5.56 round doesnt make a thud, but it does "yaw" on impact and often leaves more of a knife-like wound when entering, and may not exit until it has bounced around and exited in a completely unexpected location. Many people shot with the 5.56 round were hit mid chest and have exit wounds near the posterior hip.

Both guns and both rounds have their upsides and downsides.....in my opinion....own both! lol
I have a Romanian AK and a couple thousands rounds of 7.62 ammo, on the other side of the safe is my M4 with a couple thousand rounds of 5.56.....and I'm also mid-build on a 24" barreled AR for long range shooting.
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