See this is exactly what I expected. Maybe you should reread my first two posts. It was not to bash what Ryan did. I did not know him to judge him. My point was that it needs to be more about educating the younger riders so these things don't need to keep happening. As you said personally you ALMOST ran but you thought about what happened to Ryan. SO the point of my original post worked. Not to knock the kid but to say hmm man is it really worth it to run. I don't want that to happen to me. So back to the point my condolences to Ryan's family and friends. Its not the fact that he ran since we all make mistakes. I just hope others can walk away from this being able to say maybe I shouldnt run cause this is what my family and friends will have to go thru. Even if the fine costs you $10,000 isn't that cheaper than your life?


Bleh edit: Maybe I shouldn't post late at night or early in the morning. I did come across as a **** in the first two posts. Hopefully this post gets across what I was thinking when writing the first two posts

 

Glad you edited that because I was in the process of posting this...

 

I think you came off pretty whack with those early posts and its good to clarify yourself a little. Think before you post next time. A lot of people were affected by this kid's death and to say the things you were saying is like a slap in the face to all the family and friends.

 

This is a pretty fukked up reply. I thought about this while I was at work. I didn't know Ryan but I know how it feels to be 17 and I probably would've ran too. I would've been more worried what my dad would do to me than the police. That ride meant alot to Ryan family. You tell his dad that his son got what he deserved and move on. I'm sure he would give you what he thinks you deserve. If they have another one next year I'll be there. I thought the whole event was a good way to make something positive out of a negative event.

 

Please read my last post Kenny not the first two. If you then still feel the way you do thats on you. I worded what I meant wrong and it came out the wrong way. I said sorry and explained to the best of my ability what I meant to say. So to everyone accept it or dont I'm done with it at this point.

 

It's cool. I see you just you just came off wrong. Don't sweat it. I just felt bad after seeing Ryan's dad breaking down while trying to give a speech about his son and if just us showing up for a ride will help the Crook family thru this ordeal than I'm all for it. You did apologize. That was man of you.

 

Lessons to be learned by many in this situation. When I hopped on my first street bike it was a 750 that prolly had about 70 horse. Moved up as the years passed and at the same time the bikes got much faster and stronger. The thought of these kids gettin on street bikes that put 150+ horse to the real wheel just scares me!!

Parents - get educated before you put your kid on one of these machines

New riders - learn to ride - take a class

Old riders - take these new guys under your wing....I say this **** all the time!! The memorial ride is a wonderful thing to do, but a good heart to heart with the kid may have saved his life.

I have lost friends over the years and seen many others that I knew from the streets die as well. The key here is that we all get smarter because he lost his life....its the sacrafice he made for us all!!

 

Also don't brag to younger riders about how you run.

 

if you don't have anything nice to say then shut your ****ing mouth..

 

May I ask Exactly what happened????

 

I was personally with ryan when it happened one of 2 people that where actually "there". We where riding down goddard rd in taylor going east at about midnight and ryan did a wheelie and set it down the cop did not see that because of a little hill, but he was going about 50-60 in a 35 so the cop whipped around very carelessly because I was obeying every law possible and it made me nervous the way the cop reacted. I guess being scared from the way the cop whipped around and what might happen if his dad new he got a ticket he saw telegraph rd right there and got onto telegraph and started running when he made it to northline there was a car coming across northline and he broadsided it. if all that makes sense, not really something I like to talk about but it kills me when I here someone like supafly say stuff like that, I don't care if he edited his **** or not he meant what he said.

Originally Posted by Supafly
...I refuse to ride in a memorial ride that honors someone running from the cops. He ran and paid for his choice. I see no reason to make a public gathering out of that.

 

so he is saying that if someone makes a mistake in life you should not mourn over it or go to there funeral or have a memorial.... thats how I take it.

 

I see thats how it came across, But he realized his fvckup and called himself out on it... give em a break, we all need to learn things the hard way sometimes.. and if it took everyone callin em a friggin idiot, so be it. Unfortunately Ryan didn't get a chance to learn that runnin just isn't worth it. I've ran b4, on Telegraph too. I even blew a red light tryin to get away, once i realized that radio is a ****-ton faster than any bike out there, I stopped. and that night in jail gave me a lot of thinking time. Think of it like this, say u get caught, would u rather have a Felony fleeing and Eluding along with careless, Wreckless, speeding, Disobeyed signal, No endorsement, and w/e else? Maybe u will get away, But odds are u wont, and if u do get caught, yer gonna be facin a lot more than if u just pulled over in the first place. I'm thankful that I wasn't injured or killed in the process. I will NEVER do it again. People die, but realize that many more may live because of it. A prime example is one of my best friends Terrence (RIP) He died of an overdose in his sleep. we were all into a little too hardcore of things back then, but after that happened, Nothing ever went up my nose again. And I'm not the only one that wised up from that situation, who knows how many lives he saved by dieing. As fer Supafly, u can tell he learned a lil somethin here. The point of the memorial shouldn't be to mourn, but more or less celebrate. Celebrate what a good person he was (which he obviously was by the turnout) and to spread the word of how simple actions can have fatal consequences. Guaranteed 90% of the people that were there won't make the same mistake he did. It may not be worth his life, But u gotta look at the positive side and think of how many people he may have saved by it happening.

 

every one that said he was scared of what his dad might do should edit it out in case he ever reads any of this. last thing the family needs is to feel guilty over something that wasn't their fault

 

rip