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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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if you want a choice about wearing a helmet this season START TALKING tell your representative, cause they are talking about it again!!


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Personally I'd rather wear a helmet than not....U never know when some jackass is going to pull out in front of you, or some suv driving soccer mom is going to swerve into your lane while she's talking on her cellphone......those are things that you can't control, but you can at least minimize the amount of injury you will sustain by protecting your skull. I'd rather not be in a wheelchair....or be reduced to a drooling lump that needs 24 hour care to live...that's not living.
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well do you like having a choice?
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Can't argue with freedom of choice.....don't get me wrong if someone wants to ride without a helmet that is their decision-except in MO we have a helmet law also-I'm saying that I'd never do it. You should have a choice...but that choice lands you in a wheelchair or turns you into a manchild that is your choice as well.......



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the government and the state i think have enough control over everything we do i think eveyone should have that choice if they wish / why is it so bad taking this law away. there are many other states that do not have this law obviosly its not a major threat or every state would have it and wouldn't lift it and yes i will agree that there are idiots out there that are stupid enough as it is with a helmet on and shouldn't even be on a bike at all but usually when thats the case there going to get thier self hurt or even killed with or with out a helmet on personally i think i would be even more aware of my soroundings with out one onyou deffinetly have more sight of things around you anyway just my
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Choice is great.. But there are very few conditions I would go with no helmet.. woodward cruise.. gratiot cruise.. maybe tooling around stoney creek... and thats about it...

Ive seen enough helmets of people that have gone down to realize that they are an important part of riding.....

Otherwise, this law is natural selection at its finest.. I say implement it..
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Otherwise, this law is natural selection at its finest.. I say implement it..
Yup.......I was in Indiana today, and there were about 5 harley riders I saw today and not a single one had a helmet on. Not that I'm stereotyping(Somewhat ), but that's all I saw today.
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Yup.......I was in Indiana today, and there were about 5 harley riders I saw today and not a single one had a helmet on. Not that I'm stereotyping(Somewhat ), but that's all I saw today.
I used to travel to Mishawaka Indiana alot for work.. I saw a group of 4-5 guys on sportbikes rippin past me down the 80-90 at well over 100+.... I think one of them had a helmet on.. Didnt understand that ****...
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i dont understand why the earth is not as round as pluto
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Re: No Helmet Law

Helmet Law Bill Rides Past State Senate
Motorcyclists Say They Have Right To Choose

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LANSING, Mich. -- The state Senate on Wednesday passed a bill to let motorcyclists ride without helmets if they are at least 21 years old and meet other requirements.



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After nearly two hours of debate, the Senate -- which in the past has refused to change the state's mandatory helmet law -- voted 21-13 to send the bill to the House.

The legislation would repeal parts of the 36-year-old law, letting riders 21 and older go without helmets if they have been licensed to operate a motorcycle for at least two years or have taken a safety course.

Motorcyclists say they deserve a right to choose whether to wear helmets, arguing that helmets don't prevent accidents. They also note that every state surrounding Michigan gives riders the option to not wear helmets.

Opponents -- hospitals, insurers and law enforcement officials -- say the public should be protected from the financial risks of going without helmets.

Republican Sen. Tom George, a doctor from Portage, said the Senate was making a life-or-death decision.

He said evidence shows the number of motorcycle fatalities -- currently 80 per year in Michigan -- will increase by as many as 40 each year if the bill becomes law.

"They protect you. They protect your head," said George, who voted against the bill. "Passing this law will increase the number of deaths, injuries and the cost."

But Republican Sen. Bruce Paterson of Canton, who voted for the legislation, said the issue is about freedom.

"People have died so that we can be free -- to allow people to be free in a free land unencumbered by big government's intrusion," he said.
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Re: No Helmet Law

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i dont understand why the earth is not as round as pluto

Because, our environment causes more erotion.
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Otherwise, this law is natural selection at its finest.. I say implement it..
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Yup.......I was in Indiana today, and there were about 5 harley riders I saw today and not a single one had a helmet on. Not that I'm stereotyping(Somewhat ), but that's all I saw today.
One night last summer I was riding down by the lake (smithville) It was pretty humid out and I had to stop at a gas station to clean all the bugs off my helmet, because I literally could not see thru them...My headlights, windscreen, helmet and jacket were peppered with dead bugs. As I was cleaning them off, I saw a Harley rider go past on the same road I was just on with a brain bucket and no goggles. The only thing I can think of is that he must have liked the taste of bugs.
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One night last summer I was riding down by the lake (smithville) It was pretty humid out and I had to stop at a gas station to clean all the bugs off my helmet, because I literally could not see thru them...My headlights, windscreen, helmet and jacket were peppered with dead bugs. As I was cleaning them off, I saw a Harley rider go past on the same road I was just on with a brain bucket and no goggles. The only thing I can think of is that he must have liked the taste of bugs.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bugs............
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glad to see this pass the senate but it probably wont pass the house. but it would be nice if it did
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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As I recall, it has passed the house several times and has been held up in the senate. However, there has been a change in the senate which allowed it to pass.

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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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well this would be nice i wouldn't suggest hittin the e way and doin 100 but would be nice to ride around the city with just a pair of shades on
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bugs............
it would be like jim carrey,in "me,myself,an irene" movie!!!with all them bugs up in his toofers!!!
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Re: No Helmet Law

ok heres my :

I rode through ohio a few years ago w/ out a helmet going about 50mph.... and i'll never do it again... scared the **** outta me....

And has anyone ever thought of this: the reason we no longer have a choice of wearing a seatbelt is not for our own safety, but the the legal aspect of it... if someone hits you and your killed, then that other person has to live w/ the fact that they killed you for the rest of their life (even if the accident was out of thier control) because seatbelts save lives: they enforce this so that if you do get into an accident, it is less likely to become fatal, and leagally a bit easier to deal with.

Same thing goes w/ motor cycle helmets, I don't know about you, but i would feel better if i was in my car and got into an accident w/ a motorcyclist (no matter whos fault it was) and they were wearing a helmet- we all know what can happen if you don't. I would find it hard to deal with even if the accident wasn't my fault.
So before we say YEA- FREEDOM OF CHOICE.... we have to think of yourself as not only a rider, but also a driver.
Just a thought
However, i do agree with the government having too much power... but thats a whole other issue.
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oh and BTW... did you know that its a law to wear a helmet while riding a bicycle in any stat park?
Tell me how your going to enforce a helmet law for a bicycle but not a motorcycle



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