Ever go to one of those homes that care for people with closed head injuries? I say choice is good but if you choose not to wear a helmet I say no $$$ from state or Gov for your rehab.

 

ya we got a few of those peeps in DSR...

 

Do it like Fla did. You have to have medical insurance and a rider on your insurance if you do it. If you get caught without it..huge fines...

 

:YEAH
She may be a noob, but sounds to me like she has more sense than you already! You wanna bust your brains all over the pavement, bro, go right ahead, but you can't get pissed just because there are people that disagree with your point of view.....

 

exactly the way it should be judge keeps it short and straight



helmets=false sense of security
and if i have a choice between smearing my brains on the pavement and dying, or having a helmet absorbing an impact thus breaking my neck and turning me into a chris reeves... i'd choose to meet my maker.

 

It's not the speed of the bike, it's the speed of the rider to react. I've ridden with her, and she's a good rider, and doesn't push past her skill limit. It's people that want to go out and keep up with someone that's obviously more experienced are the ones that I've seen get hurt. I just wonder how you know Soooo much about someone you haven't ridden with.

 

No offense, Mr wonderful, but that is one of the stupidest things I have ever read in my life, and I actually am laughing right now. Did anyone see the picture on rotten.com a few years ago of the motorcyclist who wasn't wearing a helmet? The ENTIRE lower half of his face was ripped off, jaw and all. Think of being that guy, he lived, and will be disfigured for the rest of his life...even after all the pain he endured, and all the time it must have taken to put him back together again, those scars would still look pretty ugly. I wish I could find that picture so I could post it up, graphic as it is, it sends a pretty clear message.

 

Speaking from my own expereance. A helmet is not a false sense of security. I've only went down once on the pavement At 25mph and smacked my head pretty good. I'm sure my helmet did alot of good that night. Myself I hit a cat that decided to run across the road between cars. It really doesn't matter how good or how experianced of a rider you are you cant always stop whats going to happen. On a four wheeler I cant count how many times my hemet save me and the dirt and sand are a hell of lot softer than the ashfalt. Not to mention the fact that most of the states withuot helmet laws have alot better roads than we do. Last summer bringing my brother bike back from the shop I dropped into a pothole on Groeseck that would of easily take the whole front tire. I'm not saying they shouldn't abollish the helmet laws or anything because you should have a choice. But if I had a choice my lid would still strapped to my chin.






Maybe getting rid of the helmet laws would be a good thing. The way I see it it would weed out all the idiots that make us all look bad one wreck at a time.
thats my

 

i know she is twenty one and riding a 600ss.... and rants with overconfidence... what is there not to know?

 

ACTUALLY... Thats totally false, and I think anyone that has ridden with me KNOWS THAT... I won't push past my limits.. I respect the power of that bike and that will never change. I've been left behind on DSR and other rides before when they take off at 110+ and I don't make any attempt to catch them.. I know where they're stopping and I meet up with them there. AND I tell everyone that I ride with not to worry about waiting up for me, I take it at my own pace.. Point is... I know my limits...Just because I have a bike that will do 130, doesn't mean that I have to do it.

And btw, I respect that you have an opinion, just like everyone else on this board, and I'm not saying anyone is wrong for disagreeing w/ me, but there is no need to get personal with anything.... this is not about my age, or my "cheergirl" status, or the fact that i'm a girl, and to take it there tells me that your the one that needs to grow up MRWONDERFUL

 

http://www.msgroup.org/TIP171.html


"The 1998 universal helmet law repeal in Kentucky and the 1999 repeal in Louisiana produced effects similar to each other. Observed helmet use dropped from nearly full compliance under the law to the 50 percent range without the law. Motorcyclist fatalities increased in the near term by sizeable amounts-by over 50 percent in Kentucky and over 100 percent in Louisiana. Injuries also increased substantially in both states. The rates of fatalities per registered motorcycle increased in both states following the helmet law repeals, +37 percent and +75 percent.

The experience in Kentucky and Louisiana is also similar to what occurred in Arkansas and Texas, two other states that have repealed universal laws in recent years (1997), leaving little doubt that such repeals have demonstrable negative safety consequences. The weight of the evidence is that helmets reduce injury severity, that repeal of helmet laws decreases helmet use, and that states that repeal universal helmet laws experience increased motorcyclist fatalities and injuries."

These two paragraphs sum up a study done in October of 2002 by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), titled "Evaluation of the Repeal of Motorcycle Helmet Laws in Kentucky and Louisiana DOT HS 809 530 Oct".

In the study they did address that there has been an increase in motorcycles purchased and miles traveled, however, the number of fatalities and injureis still outnumbers those in previous years even with the consideration of increased usage.

 

**WARNING**>>>THESE ARE VERY DISTURBING: BUT THIS IS WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF U DON'T WEAR A HELMET!


http://www.r6rider.com/album_page.php?pic_id=1170
http://www.r6rider.com/album_page.php?pic_id=1169
http://www.r6rider.com/album_page.php?pic_id=1171

 

hmmm, i dont see anywhere to back up your previous claim that you are 5X more likely to die without a helmet... i didnt expect to though...


and to dispute your googled data

http://www.abateofmichigan.org/helmetposition.shtml

Statistics included in this document illustrate an almost insignificant effect from mandatory "crash helmet" laws on the death rate per 100 accidents involving motorcycles. In fact, these statistics show that those states with voluntary "crash helmet" use have fewer fatalities per 100 accidents than those states with mandatory "crash helmet" use and they have fewer accidents per 10,000 registrations.


1994 Motorcycle Statistical Annual Motorcycle Industry Council, Inc., 1994


Year 1993 Accidents Fatalities per 10,000 per 100 Registrations Accidents
(25) Voluntary Helmet States 194.02 2.90
(25) Mandatory Helmet States 222.21 2.98
(plus District of Columbia)

Recent "straw polls" taken at the International Motorcycle Show at the Pontiac Silverdome indicated motorcyclists from neighboring states that do not have mandatory use "crash helmet" laws avoid traveling to Michigan on their motorcycles because of our "crash helmet" law. Additionally, many motorcyclists from Michigan indicated they take their motorcycling vacations out of Michigan because of the "crash helmet" law. This clearly represents an impact on Michigan’s tourist industry, diverting revenues from Michigan businesses to surrounding states without mandatory "crash helmet" laws.

ABATE of Michigan supports voluntary use of "crash helmets" for motorcycles riders 21 years of age and older. Voluntary "crash helmet" use does not lead to an increase in fatalities. As shown in the following chart, there is no statistical correlation between mandatory helmet use laws and motorcyclist fatalities.


1994 Motorcycle Statistical Annual, Motorcycle Industry Council, Inc., 1994


While many states with voluntary use "crash helmet" laws have more fatalities per 100 motorcycle accidents than Michigan, all these states fall within the statistical range of those states with mandatory use "crash helmet" laws.

ABATE of Michigan also supports rigorous and continuing motorcycle rider and automobile driver education programs, along with motorcycle awareness training programs for all drivers. Statistics show that formal motorcycle rider education programs result in fewer accidents and fewer deaths. The following chart shows a clear and distinct (inverse) relationship between rider education and accidents & fatalities. The more rider training programs, the fewer accidents & fatalities.

Source: Compiled by Motorcycle Safety Foundation, Irvine, CA & National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Washington, DC

 

and that doods head got run over by a tire..... put a cantalope in your helmet and run over it, or if you are confident enough dont waste food and back over that helmet with your head in it.

 

point is, operating a cycle is dangerous, helmet or not.... if you feel safe wearing a helmet, wear it, but dont feel safe because you never really are.



and dont run over your helmet cause you will either have to buy a new one, or wish they repealed the law.

 

For sure I'm not gonna pay to house a bunch of vegetables...you wanna make decsions like that then you better pay for your continued care etc.

 

I am not a fan of the no helmet law but for personnal reason. Whether you believe it or not there will be an effect on our insurance rates. Maybe not this year, maybe not even next year but I promise you they will. Now if they did use something like Flordia that would be awesome. I don't think she means a helmet will save your life and if she does then you are right about the false sense of security of a helmet. Though I will say how you handled her on the boards is not right since clearly you have never riden with her.

What a helmet does is reduce the chance of you having a closed head injury or dieing. You can die from internal body injurys and have a head/brain in perfect condition. Death and serious injury is something we have to accept as a possiblity being a motorcycle rider. But then again people die in cages every single day also.

I am not going to argue with the ability to have the choice but not at the expense of forking more money out of my pocket. I personnally will not ride without a helmet. I ride all the time in atleast a leather jacket bare min.. I have too many things in life to live for and if wearing helmet reduces my chance of being a veggy or dieing by just 1% then it is worth it to me.

Jeff

 

insurance, wtf is insurance are we supposed to have that to ride?

 

I love drama....

 

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