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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by old man roger
no but it takes more amperage to turn over a hot motor ...
I'm gonna say the exact opposite of what you just said .
Example : A cold motor in the winter .

It sounds to me he is having ignition problems .
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 05:45 AM
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Crazy D
I'm gonna say the exact opposite of what you just said .
Example : A cold motor in the winter .

It sounds to me he is having ignition problems .
cold thick oil can make it hard to start but he was having this problem before it was very cold ..

and once the motor is warmed up all clearances are tighter especially ring and piston , you also have hot gasses in the cylinder that are not there when the motor is cold
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or maybe the ecm is acting up when the motor is warm or it is giving fale signals when it senses (or doesn't sense) the bike is at operating temperature .

I could be wrong . Don't quote me on that
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I just smoked. Now I can either go back to bed for 2.25 hours, or this..
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a hot electric motor pulls more amps when it's hot also[starter motor] ...and im pretty sure he said he changed the ecm
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Or maybe the ecm is acting up when the motor is warm or it is giving fale signals when it senses (or doesn't sense) the bike is at operating temperature .

I could be wrong . Don't quote me on that
first part replaced. at this point the main harness is the only thing that hasnt been replaced.
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Originally Posted by old man roger
cold thick oil can make it hard to start but he was having this problem before it was very cold ..

and once the motor is warmed up all clearances are tighter especially ring and piston , you also have hot gasses in the cylinder that are not there when the motor is cold
I don't know his initial problem , but it doesn't sound like he is having problems cranking the bike over when its warm .

It sounds like he has a crank no start problem . Which would have nothing to do with internal engine clearances .
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no it has trouble cranking when its warm, thats exactly it
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I don't know his initial problem , but it doesn't sound like he is having problems cranking the bike over when its warm .

It sounds like he has a crank no start problem . Which would have nothing to do with internal engine clearances .
you are wrong that is exactly the problem he was having , when the bike was hot it would turn over slower then when it was cold
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no it has trouble cranking when its warm, thats exactly it
when we hook up a 50 amp car battery charger it starts right up
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Can he push start it when it's warm
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i kinda want to rub one out, but becky wakes up in 20 minuets so i can just wait
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i kinda want to rub one out, but becky wakes up in 20 minuets so i can just wait
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it still sounds electrical but you said you checked every thing electrical so as long as the battery is good and the bike is charging and there are no bad cables then my next guess would be the bike is filling one or more cylinders with gas making it not want to turn over but i don't have a clue why ...
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i still don't think it's the motor
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i think you have either a bad wire or connection and when the motor is hot it pulls more of a load to turn it over and the wire or connection just wont flow the amps needed ....your idle problem is probably another issue completely
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well that kind of proves it's not the motor then doesn't it ? your buddies theory was that when the motor got hot the piston would expand and thats was causing the motor to seize up , right ?
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i would probably give it a try after i was sure it wasn't an electrical problem , i mean you have one there already
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the starter clutch could be causing it or like i said before you have a bad connection or wire
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if you are telling the complete truth and have checked all the electrical **** and your battery is good then i would try the starter clutch .....

im not saying you are lying about any thing but people tend to say "ya i checked that" when in fact they just don't think thats the problem so they say "ya i checked that" just so they can get to the next thing to check ....

if i were to come to your house i would probably make sure all the basics were functioning correctly because i still think it is an electrical problem not a motor problem but if all that checked out then my next step would be to change the starter clucth because you already have one ...
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