Im up for ideas but like i said i swapped everything that everyone told me to swap

 

what did mike do ?

 

dont know really lol. he used the volt meter a little - took his torque wrench to test some **** on the wheel and how much torque it took to spin the wheel and that was pretty much it Swapped my battery with his battery too.

 

i think you have either a bad wire or connection and when the motor is hot it pulls more of a load to turn it over and the wire or connection just wont flow the amps needed ....your idle problem is probably another issue completely

 

yeah i think thats what he was testing with the volt meter. he was shutting off the brake lights and the headlight and seeing if those were drawing more current then necessary. BUT it got to the point now that it doesnt matter hot or cold - it doesnt always start now even when its cold. Like when I brought it to Mikes it didnt want to start even though the battery was charged. And when I got it home it started right up. But when I went outside before it wouldnt start up cold.

 

i would check the battery terminals really good to see if its all good...after that check all wires that run to the starter bcuz it sounds like a bad connection or broke wire somewhere that gives power whether it be positive or negative

 

When I replaced the starter motor I swapped both cables that come from it - the ground and the one that runs to the main fuse box or whatever. Happened with the old starter and old cables and with the new starter and new cables. Ive had three different batteries in the bike already so that would take care of the battery terminals Besides that, the cables that connect to the battery are clean.

 

well that kind of proves it's not the motor then doesn't it ? your buddies theory was that when the motor got hot the piston would expand and thats was causing the motor to seize up , right ?

 

its not the motor is all i know so get yo ace out there with a big bag of green stuff and figure it out

 

****. I dont know what to do. I could buy a motor tomorrow and be done with this ****** problem or stress myself out for another month and not ride while stressing the **** out.

 

yeah but cant that just mean now that the motors fucked completely since now it doesnt wanna start at all

 

didnt you just have solenoid up there? or was i imagining that? if not, wheres the solenoid? i wanna get this thing running already

 

 

idk ask omr...ive got an f2

 

have you crimped any wires with butt connectors that may have broken

 

sometimes it starts and sometimes it doesnt. it used to only not wanna start when hot but not sometimes it starts from a cold start and sometimes it doesnt. I dont know

 

Nope. All my wires are soldered - tip sensor headlights brake lights etc. I didnt **** with any wires besides those.

 

i like to check bcuz soldered wires break on occasion too but if your that confident then we can move on...have you checked the voltage at the starter

 

check how? i might have but just dont understand what you mean?

 

i mean where the starter wires are connected on the starter did you put the volt meter on there