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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by DURTY-636
Correct


now to get my f250 to do that
get some big steel frictionless tires and a 100% smooth sruface
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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Hauling 56,000 pounds of Mobile Homes from Odessa to Volgograd will earn your driver $3.35 per mile, a total of $2651.24 for the entire route. Your company specializes in this cargo type so you will receive a 5% bonus for delivery. If you are late you will be fined $50.00 per day that you are late.
Old Jun 13, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by old man roger
Frieght train efficiency

If you take the entire loaded weight of a typical freight train and divide it over the amount of diesel fuel it uses…
Freight trains, on average, move one ton of material 423 miles on one gallon of diesel fuel.

I ran across this tidbit, i thought some people here would appreciate it!
an average diesel loco has a pair of 1500 hp engines and weighs 90,000 lbs. an average freight car, fully loaded will weigh in around 160,000 lbs. They usually pul 8-10 cars per loco, and thats only because of traction issues.
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Originally Posted by old man roger
ok i know this is gonna sound like a biker boy post but it has been on my mind so im gonna see what you guys think ...i wish niner and three cheetos were here[engineers] ....

every one makes a big deal out of hybrids [cars the run both gas engines and electric motors] why don't they just make cars with a real small light gas or deisel engine that powers electric motors via inverters ???
That's what hydrogen fuel cell cars do. Simple answer is efficiency losses. Anytime you convert one type of energy to another you lose some energy in the form of heat. (if inverters were 100% efficient they wouldn't get warm). P.S. they are workin on the fuel cells, also if you have a BSME and want to work on fuel cell cars my friend's department is looking for a couple engnineers.

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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by scott3824
I've been on my soap box about running on biodiesel for a while .....
Time to stop talking about it and be about it scooter.
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by MikeM
get some big steel frictionless tires and a 100% smooth sruface
A frictionless rod of infinate length?
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an average diesel loco has a pair of 1500 hp engines and weighs 90,000 lbs. an average freight car, fully loaded will weigh in around 160,000 lbs. They usually pul 8-10 cars per loco, and thats only because of traction issues.
I always figured the loco weighed more than the cars. learn something every day. It seems like they haul way more than 10 cars per loco on the trains I have seen, amtrack excluded.

Don't they have devices that dump sand on the rail just infront of the wheels for traction?
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Originally Posted by NINER
Time to stop talking about it and be about it scooter.
http://nearbio.com/
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Originally Posted by scott3824
I meant making it in your garage. You know what pisses me off? The gas station on MI ave that has a sign that says "biodiesel the fuell of the future", but you go to the pump and it is stickered as ULSD. I think I am going to turn them in to the state of MI for false advertising or misleading consumers.
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I think once biodiesel plants start getting bigger and more common the price of diesel should be less than gasoline again. There is no easy replacement for gasoline and ethanol is a scam.
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how is ethanol a scam, other than it driving up the prices of just about everything in the supermarket due to corn shortage?
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Originally Posted by NINER
That's what hydrogen fuel cell cars do. Simple answer is efficiency losses. Anytime you convert one type of energy to another you lose some energy in the form of heat. (if inverters were 100% efficient they wouldn't get warm). P.S. they are workin on the fuel cells, also if you have a BSME and want to work on fuel cell cars my friend's department is looking for a couple engnineers.
i couldn't take that job. i'm horrible with electrical anything.
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Originally Posted by NINER
I meant making it in your garage. You know what pisses me off? The gas station on MI ave that has a sign that says "biodiesel the fuell of the future", but you go to the pump and it is stickered as ULSD. I think I am going to turn them in to the state of MI for false advertising or misleading consumers.
I am not spending the time or money making it ..... I would rather go to the station 10 minutes from work and fill up on some B100, save money because it's cheaper than dinodiesel and because it's not ulsd there is suppose to be more lubricity so you don't need to buy additives either. I am going to go there my next fill up and benchmark how she runs, what mpg I am getting etc ..... Even if the bio is $4.70 a gallon I would rather give my money to a local bd company than the ******* speculators and opec


Originally Posted by NINER
I think once biodiesel plants start getting bigger and more common the price of diesel should be less than gasoline again. There is no easy replacement for gasoline and ethanol is a scam.
A report on cnn the other day talked about the price of diesel, a major oil company admitted it is cheaper to make than gas, supposedly diesel should be back to cheaper than 87 within the next 2 years - but gas could be $7 then so it's all relative lol
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Originally Posted by scott3824
A report on cnn the other day talked about the price of diesel, a major oil company admitted it is cheaper to make than gas, supposedly diesel should be back to cheaper than 87 within the next 2 years - but gas could be $7 then so it's all relative lol
Oil companies are going to be the next big business scandal/investigation.
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Originally Posted by scott3824
I am not spending the time or money making it ..... I would rather go to the station 10 minutes from work and fill up on some B100, save money because it's cheaper than dinodiesel and because it's not ulsd there is suppose to be more lubricity so you don't need to buy additives either. I am going to go there my next fill up and benchmark how she runs, what mpg I am getting etc ..... Even if the bio is $4.70 a gallon I would rather give my money to a local bd company than the ******* speculators and opec




A report on cnn the other day talked about the price of diesel, a major oil company admitted it is cheaper to make than gas, supposedly diesel should be back to cheaper than 87 within the next 2 years - but gas could be $7 then so it's all relative lol
we're turning into a 3rd world country.
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Originally Posted by Trachito
how is ethanol a scam, other than it driving up the prices of just about everything in the supermarket due to corn shortage?
It's less efficient than gasoline and it takes more fuel, energy, and chemicals to farm than gallons of fuel you can make from it.
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Originally Posted by NINER
Oil companies are going to be the next big business scandal/investigation.
trust me, they arent makin as much profit as everyone thinks. their production costs have gone from $250k per day out in the Gulf, to 1.5 million per day.
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Originally Posted by NINER
I always figured the loco weighed more than the cars. learn something every day. It seems like they haul way more than 10 cars per loco on the trains I have seen, amtrack excluded.

Don't they have devices that dump sand on the rail just infront of the wheels for traction?
A loco weighs more than an empty car by a lot. The engines in them only weigh a couple thousand, which isnt much compared to 80 thousand.

Sand isnt used that much anymore but back in the day it was standard. now days locos arent as compact as they used to be and they have more drive wheels.
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Originally Posted by Trachito
we're turning into a 3rd world country.
We have been ever since NAFTA, it just took most people this long to figure it out.



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