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Old 06-11-2008, 11:18 AM
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

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sucks even more if u can't ride a bike to work.
yeah i can now .... but i hate riding alone in rush hour early in the morning
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by MikeM
probably 525
its says 520 for everything? i guess they dont make them in any other pitch yet?
http://www.sickinnovations.com/55t_steel_sprockets.htm
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by MikeM
probably 525
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by Dirty Jerzey Alie
its says 520 for everything? i guess they dont make them in any other pitch yet?
http://www.sickinnovations.com/55t_steel_sprockets.htm
no just 520, it's just as strong and you get slightly more torque and hp
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by scott3824
no just 520, it's just as strong and you get slightly more torque and hp
huh?? how is that if the 520 only represents the width of the gear tooth and chain? unless ur referring to more torque cuz it's more teeth, but the engine's hp stays the same.
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by Dirty Jerzey Alie
its says 520 for everything? i guess they dont make them in any other pitch yet?
http://www.sickinnovations.com/55t_steel_sprockets.htm
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by Trachito
huh?? how is that if the 520 only represents the width of the gear tooth and chain? unless ur referring to more torque cuz it's more teeth, but the engine's hp stays the same.
Less circulating mass, I don't really buy into that **** though.
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by Trachito
huh?? how is that if the 520 only represents the width of the gear tooth and chain? unless ur referring to more torque cuz it's more teeth, but the engine's hp stays the same.
the whole less weight translates into less rotational mass thing ....
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by Trachito
huh?? how is that if the 520 only represents the width of the gear tooth and chain? unless ur referring to more torque cuz it's more teeth, but the engine's hp stays the same.
he means because theres less mass to move

inconsequential imo
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by Zuki750
Less circulating mass, I don't really buy into that **** though.
i don't either, but a lot of racers do. they do 520 conversions on their bikes almost as soon as they get them. and the hp stays the same regardless. only engine mods affect that.
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by MikeM
he means because theres less mass to move

inconsequential imo
Especially since she's buying steel instead of aluminum.
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and you give the engine the mechanical advantage by going smaller on the front sprocket and larger on the rear .... for a simple example pay attention to switching gears on a 10 speed and how easy/hard it is to pedal with the different scenarios
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by Trachito
i don't either, but a lot of racers do. they do 520 conversions on their bikes almost as soon as they get them. and the hp stays the same regardless. only engine mods affect that.
Technically, hp at the rear wheel will change because less is being lost in the driveline. I don't think it's a real amount but whatever.
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by scott3824
and you give the engine the mechanical advantage by going smaller on the front sprocket and larger on the rear .... for a simple example pay attention to switching gears on a 10 speed and how easy/hard it is to pedal with the different scenarios
I'm not sure what you're going for here but you are not changing the hp by changing gear ratios. More torque is being applied at a slower rate.
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by scott3824
and you give the engine the mechanical advantage by going smaller on the front sprocket and larger on the rear .... for a simple example pay attention to switching gears on a 10 speed and how easy/hard it is to pedal with the different scenarios
actually its harder on the engine the smaller u go on the front. the force now has less teeth to be spread over... but torque is certainly upped.
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

Originally Posted by Trachito
actually its harder on the engine the smaller u go on the front. the force now has less teeth to be spread over... but torque is certainly upped.
It's harder on the sprocket and chain, I don't think it matters to the engine.
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Originally Posted by Zuki750
I'm not sure what you're going for here but you are not changing the hp by changing gear ratios. More torque is being applied at a slower rate.
yes thats what i was going for, in a quick adn improperly stated way
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Re: OMR SUBCAGE [subframe cage]

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Technically, hp at the rear wheel will change because less is being lost in the driveline. I don't think it's a real amount but whatever.
okay, i'll buy that. but u cant measure that with a dyno. dyno machines measure engine hp over it's camshaft's rpms.
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