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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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Physically watch your young kids on the internet then or do like my parents did and tell them "it's a nice day go outside and play or you are grounded and you can stay inside all you want."
I dont think its that hard, but lets face it, many poele arent even qualified to care for themselves little lone kids
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Plus if Mikes work can keep him from viewing photobucket, there has to be software out there that will block your kids.
someone in the time clock thread posted a link to a website that reroutes you to a remote server or some ****....i just dont feel like going back through all those pages of posts to find the link....its gotta be one of us that knows i just cant remember who posted it!
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in a long run aggregate supply/demand curve yes but not in near term outlook. The amount of companies filing chap. 13 will cause things to have drastic negative effects before you see the economy rebound and get back on the domestic dependence track
It will help the companies that use the most american labor and hurt those who don't. Of course it wouldn't be a flat %age tariff on every good imported into the country. A good start would be electronics and automobiles. Things that aren't a definate need. You can do without a new car or a new 60" tv.
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I dont think its that hard, but lets face it, many poele arent even qualified to care for themselves little lone kids
Maybe that's the staring point of this viscous circle. People expecting the schools to parent their children.
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I like living near nice people too, but that **** pisses me off. I go out to the middle of nowhere to ride and clear my head because there is no traffic or suburban sprall. It pisses me off when I see it spreading like a cancer on the land.
i hate that more than anything. when i was a kid, my neighborhood had woods to play in and build bike tracks. now all the woods are gone, we have McMansions and shopping centers
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that is true, it would just HAVE to be something very slowly implemented in order to not shock the economy!
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Americans debt to income ratio is horrific, and consumer electronics are part of that. I mean, I honestly didn't need a 57" DLP Toshiba, but the price was right and I threw it on a CC... but that's the point, you raise Tariff's too much and **** will get even more expensive. Nothing wrong with buying products that are cheaper from other countries, but what the problem is when we are not utilizing what our country can specialize in.
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Re: Breakfast Club

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someone in the time clock thread posted a link to a website that reroutes you to a remote server or some ****....i just dont feel like going back through all those pages of posts to find the link....its gotta be one of us that knows i just cant remember who posted it!
Websense blocks every site like that I have tried so far. IP relays.
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i hate that more than anything. when i was a kid, my neighborhood had woods to play in and build bike tracks. now all the woods are gone, we have McMansions and shopping centers

someone needs some mc lovin hahahahah


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Websense blocks every site like that I have tried so far. IP relays.

hmmm gotcha
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Re: Breakfast Club

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Americans debt to income ratio is horrific, and consumer electronics are part of that. I mean, I honestly didn't need a 57" DLP Toshiba, but the price was right and I threw it on a CC... but that's the point, you raise Tariff's too much and **** will get even more expensive. Nothing wrong with buying products that are cheaper from other countries, but what the problem is when we are not utilizing what our country can specialize in.
**** made in other countries will get more expensive, but then companies have a business case to make it here for slightly cheaper and they can hire 5,000 and pay them a wage they can live on.
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Re: Breakfast Club

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that is true, it would just HAVE to be something very slowly implemented in order to not shock the economy!
It's very difficult to not have the economy restore balance. If you haven't already, read about "The Invisible Hand" by Adam Smith. The economy will reset itself over time, shocking the economy only creates scarcity, and scarcity creates price increases along with demand increases. The economy will almost ALWAYS return to equilibrium, considering Ceteris Paribus. (No planes crashing into towers or the pentagon)
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Re: Breakfast Club

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Americans debt to income ratio is horrific, and consumer electronics are part of that. I mean, I honestly didn't need a 57" DLP Toshiba, but the price was right and I threw it on a CC... but that's the point, you raise Tariff's too much and **** will get even more expensive. Nothing wrong with buying products that are cheaper from other countries, but what the problem is when we are not utilizing what our country can specialize in.
ya but lets face it if its going on a CC then the lil tariff added on wouldnt make a HUGE difference to most poeple!
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Re: Breakfast Club

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Plus if Mikes work can keep him from viewing photobucket, there has to be software out there that will block your kids.
my company spent a million dollars to keep me from seeing photobucket
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It's very difficult to not have the economy restore balance. If you haven't already, read about "The Invisible Hand" by Adam Smith. The economy will reset itself over time, shocking the economy only creates scarcity, and scarcity creates price increases along with demand increases. The economy will almost ALWAYS return to equilibrium, considering Ceteris Paribus. (No planes crashing into towers or the pentagon)
No I havent read that book but that makes alot of sense!!!
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**** made in other countries will get more expensive, but then companies have a business case to make it here for slightly cheaper and they can hire 5,000 and pay them a wage they can live on.
That's the problem though, America does not "specialize" in making tech products like that. If Americans were to build the exact same 57" DLP it would cost about 2x's more b/c of the cost and labor to make. Now I'm not saying that Americans COULDN'T eventually make a product as cheap, and as quickly the Asian countries, but the fact is initially it will cost too much and unless we completely ditch all foreign goods and make internally the competition will be cheaper and nobody will buy a more expensive American made product when they walk into a Best Buy and see the Toshiba sitting next to the American made TV that is 1/2 of the cost. And either you are Mike said it earlier, the average income is only 43k a year, nobody can afford to pay double for a product that may be better in quality.
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So what is the answer?


Lower peoples credit limits. Something CC companies would be stupid to do
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Re: Breakfast Club

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That's the problem though, America does not "specialize" in making tech products like that. If Americans were to build the exact same 57" DLP it would cost about 2x's more b/c of the cost and labor to make. Now I'm not saying that Americans COULDN'T eventually make a product as cheap, and as quickly the Asian countries, but the fact is initially it will cost too much and unless we completely ditch all foreign goods and make internally the competition will be cheaper and nobody will buy a more expensive American made product when they walk into a Best Buy and see the Toshiba sitting next to the American made TV that is 1/2 of the cost. And either you are Mike said it earlier, the average income is only 43k a year, nobody can afford to pay double for a product that may be better in quality.
we need to relax our labor laws if we want to be remotely competitive with asia
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No I havent read that book but that makes alot of sense!!!
It's not a book, it's a theory that Adam Smith came up with. His book is "The Wealth of Nations". Adam Smith and Karl Marx are 2 VERY key players when it comes to Economic advancement and theories.
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That's the problem though, America does not "specialize" in making tech products like that. If Americans were to build the exact same 57" DLP it would cost about 2x's more b/c of the cost and labor to make. Now I'm not saying that Americans COULDN'T eventually make a product as cheap, and as quickly the Asian countries, but the fact is initially it will cost too much and unless we completely ditch all foreign goods and make internally the competition will be cheaper and nobody will buy a more expensive American made product when they walk into a Best Buy and see the Toshiba sitting next to the American made TV that is 1/2 of the cost. And either you are Mike said it earlier, the average income is only 43k a year, nobody can afford to pay double for a product that may be better in quality.
Not 1/2 but I'm saying if there is a toshiba right next to a slyvania (they are us made right? if not lets say they are for the sake of arguement) the toshiba is 2400 and the slyvania is 2100. You can pay a little more for the foreign good, or you can buy the cheaper domestic one.



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