Originally Posted by Sinfix

can i ask why?

I'm just starting out and i feel a lot more comfortable with power wheelies vs clutch wheelies. Popping the clutch makes me nervous, power wheelie feels more natural. So far, i havnt done the first clutch wheelie but can do power wheelies at will.

any reason this is bad?

Originally Posted by kiamo

How are you at finding the true balance point (and holding it) when you do power wheelies? I wouldn't want to be learning what that feels like and how to hold it while doing 100mph down a freeway... lol ^^

Originally Posted by kiamo

As far as I understand (can't actually do power wheelies on my bike) it is far safer to do clutch wheelies, due to the low speed you can initiate them at.

How are you at finding the true balance point (and holding it) when you do power wheelies? I wouldn't want to be learning what that feels like and how to hold it while doing 100mph down a freeway... lol

Popping the clutch does feel a bit strange at first, but if you start trying at really low RPM and work up you'll get the feel of it. It'll start to feel more natural within 10mins lol.

Dump the clutch at 3 or 4k rpm a few times until you get used to the front wheel popping up a tiny bit, then push the rpm a bit higher, and so on. Once your reving upto around 8k you'll start finding your balance point. And then the fun really begins :D

oh, and stay relaxed, loose, but in control. Don't strongarm the bike. The bike will do all the work for you if you tell it to. ^^

Originally Posted by Sinfix

i think clutch wheelies look cooler and i would rather be able to do them, but i dont feel like its safer. I flick the throttle around 5k and hold the front wheel up until time to shift. i guess i can see how the low speed is considered safer, but i feel more comfortable with the increased speed vs popping the clutch and/or using balance vs acceleration. I've always been into racing, the speed doesnt seem to scare me as much as the clutch popping or having to balance.

I am trying to get the hang of low speed and clutching... but so far on my experiences with bikes, i've came a lot closer to crashing at low speeds than i have a high speed or high acceleration

Originally Posted by Sinfix

can i ask why?

I'm just starting out and i feel a lot more comfortable with power wheelies vs clutch wheelies. Popping the clutch makes me nervous, power wheelie feels more natural. So far, i havnt done the first clutch wheelie but can do power wheelies at will.

any reason this is bad?

Originally Posted by a913life

I hope this was sarcasm I can roll into a nice 1st gear power and maintain @ 50+/-

Originally Posted by Sinfix

i think clutch wheelies look cooler and i would rather be able to do them, but i dont feel like its safer. I flick the throttle around 5k and hold the front wheel up until time to shift. i guess i can see how the low speed is considered safer, but i feel more comfortable with the increased speed vs popping the clutch and/or using balance vs acceleration. I've always been into racing, the speed doesnt seem to scare me as much as the clutch popping or having to balance.

I am trying to get the hang of low speed and clutching... but so far on my experiences with bikes, i've came a lot closer to crashing at low speeds than i have a high speed or high acceleration

Originally Posted by xshellshock

But crashing at high speed sucks a lot worse. Usually.

Originally Posted by swampy

yes theres a reason power wheelies are bad...you actually have less control of how much throttle you puttin into the wheelie...you may think you do but when you have to crack the throttle to wide open to get the wheel off the groud thats a lot of gas that goes in and sooner or later you going to flip that thing right over and you and the bike are going to be fucked up..clutching up maybe scary at first but you have control of throttle position and it come up right away instead of gradually like the power wheelies do..thats also why power wheelies are bad cuz your constantly haveing to increase your speed in order to keep the front wheel off the ground...the list goes on but in the end power wheelies are going to get ya hurt...then again if your doing them more then likely your front end is barely off the ground either way...



in first gear you should be able to do a lot better then that...plus i bet your redlining the **** out of it by the time you reach that far...and sry to say but your not maintaining anything by doing so..



the reason why lower speeds actually take skill to control...fast wheelies your just relying on the bikes power and the wind to keep the front end up which probably isnt anywhere near balance point as what you think...cuz if you were doing power wheelies and with the lack of experiance you would have gone over backwards already...



yes crashing at lower speed suck way less and do way less damage..

Originally Posted by Sinfix

I'm not anywhere near balance point, but not barely off the ground either. My wheelies look about like this

I'm gonna start working on the clutch method as soon as i get the short lever in. I understand it's the better way, but i dont see how i have more control of the the throttle from using the clutch. I can pop the clutch and give it too much gas the same as i can give it too much gas on a power wheelie. At speed, i'm chasing the front end vs having to balance it. Outside of going fast vs going slow, it seems "safer".

Either way, gonna start learning clutch asap, so hopefully in a month or two i'll be saying "omg i was such an idiot, this is the right way"

Originally Posted by a913life

lol @ kiamo, do you have a large sprocket? it doesn't matter how you reach balance point, via power or clutch, once you're there you're there. my r6 doesn't redline till 60+ when I put down a a power wheelie I'm usually reading 45-48 and that's after I roll into it again to cushion the impact, in all honesty tho it is screaming haha