This is the dumbest tread ever, mileage has nothing to do with RPM's, i understand your point, but u might as well say bikes have more miles on them because of when they are running in neutral there turning rpm's

 

+1 to all of that... wanted to post a thread on this exact topic for a while now but didnt feel like getting into the discussion but i guess ill throw my .02 in since its a thread now


yes you could say that the CHASIS has less miles on it... wheels, swingarm, suspension... that would be true...

BUT, the motor motor has the wear and tear on it the same as the indicated mileage...

EXAMPLE:

Say you gear a bike up 20%. Then you put and indicated 10K miles on it... you could say that the CHASIS has 8K on it... but the motor has spun the same amount of times and worked as hard and WORN the same amount as if it had done 10K with stock gearing... so the 10K miles IS accurate for the motor... make sense?

 

who cares about milage its a stunt bike just ride the dam thang!

 

+1 ride it till the wheels fall off

 

yes, we get it, ur GANGSTAAA!!!...

you two are missing the point of DISCUSSION... the point is to discuss things... not say screw it just ride

oh and btw, HUGE difference between a bike idling and one running 8-9K with a load on it down the road...

 

mileage really shouldn't even be considered when buying a stuntbike....
theres a bike with 5000 miles on it, but this guy liked to do rev limiters daily...
and then theres a bike with 10,000 miles on it that is rarely red lined and has had more frequent oil changes............

in that situation...id say the bike with more miles on it is actually in better shape.....

the whole mileage thing is bullshit....its how much time an engine spends at high rpms that is causing the wear and tear IMO

 

What if you buy a brand new bike, and only take it to parking lots, and never even get past 3rd gear, spending 95% of the bikes life in 1st gear, and hte bike has say 6k TRUE miles

It's all about the rpm's turned for the time turned, mileage don't mean ****

 

all of u have very interesting points, but i like yours. i think this is the most important thing to take into consideration with bikes because how it is treated and maintained determines the integrety of the motocycle. besides these damn things run forever.....

 

a sprocket exchanges force for distance, taken a given amount of energy and dividing it differently reduces the effort for the motor. same as a pulley, lever, screw, etc. what if your stuntbike is also your daily driver to get to work an hour each way at 60 mph and you baby it on the rpms?
also you maintain it and dont do rev limiter coasters? not that i didnt blow up my last motor for that reason im just sayin.
then i would have to think the bike isnt taking much of a beating and it does in fact have less miles on it than indicated. this is all way too confusing.

 

Whats the life of a sportsbike motor 2002 models and up. Is it worth the dollars to do a rebuild?

 

one full tire rotation is still one full tire rotation regardless

a mile is still a mile weather u walk it or run it


please tell me someone picked up on that metaphor

 

i think so ... but if u have to rebuild it so soon? wtf ... engines last dude my boy got over 60k on his cbr n it runs like gold

 

i got u ... +1

 

if that's true then which new bike do you want to buy? (assuming that for some stupid reason the bike you buy is across the country and is being ridden out to be delivered to you)

A) a completely stock one ridden at 90mph on the highway the whole way there
or
B) A -1+12 geared one ridden at 90mph on the highway the whole way there

Both went the same distance right? cool, ill take the stock one that was turning 8K RPMS the whole way and you can have the -1+12 one that was turning 13K RPMS the whole way... sound good?

 

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Originally Posted by -Nasty-
one full tire rotation is still one full tire rotation regardless

a mile is still a mile weather u walk it or run it


please tell me someone picked up on that metaphor


if that's true then which new bike do you want to buy? (assuming that for some stupid reason the bike you buy is across the country and is being ridden out to be delivered to you)

A) a completely stock one ridden at 90mph on the highway the whole way there
or
B) A -1+12 geared one ridden at 90mph on the highway the whole way there

Both went the same distance right? cool, ill take the stock one that was turning 8K RPMS the whole way and you can have the -1+12 one that was turning 13K RPMS the whole way... sound good?
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That's the point I see here. A mile is a mile, given. I'll walk you run(sprint 12K rpm) taking half strides, who's tired and sore at the end of the same mile essentially finished in the same amout of time.

 

john i understand what ur saying but a mile is a mile a full tire rotation is still a full tire rotation, what ur talking about is motorstress not mileage

 

hahaha thanks for playing along cjoe with my metaphor

 

so we all can agree then... a mile is a mile on the CHASSIS... but a geared mile is harder on the motor than a stock mile, therefore indicated mileage (i.e. WEAR AND TEAR, which is why we look at mileage on motors) on the motor is accurate whether you are geared or not... which is what we've been saying all along

a lot of the other points in this thread were very valid, like it matters more how the bike was ridden and more importantly how it was maintained than indicated mileage...

with how easy it is to swap guages and unplug them.. i dont doubt that a LOT of bikes sold on here arent true mileage anyway

 

lol this very complicated... mile is a mile no matter if u walk or ride or wheelie or an endo.. or wheelie in circle for a mile, ur there faster..... to me, miles re nothing.. it just says how often the bike is used.. i couldnt care less cuz i m upgrading everything so..

 

How about option ?
C) -1 +12 geared one ridden at 60 mph the whole time turning 8k rpms?
just because a bike is geared does not indicate the miles are harder miles. stuntriding aside.