cages are over rated... esp **** that makes ur bike look like something out of mad max

 

my for those of you who .. who cant seem to think out of the box and base all your judement from looks alone.... i wont mention any names ........ you think i just looked at the 2 worse cages ever built..and decided to do the same thing... ... well since you seem unedjucated on the process of building a cage ill inform you on something i call DIFFERENT. lets see why they can look similar?? well first off... every cage for every same year bike will have some same mounting points..why? because i do not own suzuki, kawasaki, honda, or yahama .. and thats beyond my control where to start mounts off of.. theres only so many to chose from if you can even chose different mounts. ..theres motor mount at the front... and depending on clearance .. theres either the motor mount in the back or the swing arm hole... so .. with that in mind... cages can possibly look the same. now let me explain to you how my designs are different in every way..lets start off with dimension.. and materials...POWERS... from my observations... uses 1 inch .95 wall tubing.. which i believe to be mild steel cause it twist and bends right after all the bracing thats in it that i would say holds it together .. but due to the poor strenght of the material it still bends right after all the bracing and the small motor mount tubes are hard to deal with after crashes .. 905.. uses 1 and a quarter in material that breaks and rips like paper.. so im really not sure what that stuff is...and their motor mounts are .95 1 and a half inch tubing .. technically 905 allready has 2 better qualities than powers.. ( bigger motomount tube to make it easier to access and bigger tubing for the rest of the cage.. from a fabrication standpoint if 905 used 1 and a quarter tube.. thats .95 ( for now well assume that all material is the same ) i can technically use a 1 inch tube with thicker wall say .120 and have the strenght be equal. 905 crossbars in my opinion are extremely week..and whatever washers they use for the ends of all thier cages are plain thin washers that get smashed upon impact. now lets see what ive done to make a DIFFERENCE?? .. every other company seems to use mild steel ( dont quote me on this just what im assuming from what ive seen) mild steel strenght is 40,000 PSI ....its week because the tubing process is rolled and then a machine welds the seems together .. giving it a week point.. but its cheap so i guess everyone uses it . my cages are a combination of super strong and strong to medium materials .. to where i believe will be strong .. but will still give at some point. my materials go from DOM to chromoly ( both seemless tubing).. DOM strength is roughly 80,000 PSI and chromoly is about 120,000 PSI .. nascar uses DOM because is still bends and doesnt snap..but it sure doesnt bend like mild steel does... not only are my wall thickness different but my materials are as well.. some parts of my cages are tig welded for a cleaner look and more strenght .. the washers i use at the tube ends are custom made 3/16 thick on all ends of the cage.. the crossbar itself is 1 and a quarter inch..( i technically dont even have to use a brace in the cage shown).. but i put it in their to look closer to my original design on my gixxer .. i have made a solution to every problem i have seen from stunting myself .. and it seems to be working just fine..i eliminated the major bracing and small tubing that powers uses.. and ive eliminated the poor materials and thin washers that 905 uses.. and it works .. .. i can do this cause im a 1 man operation.. and i can get away with higher quality materials and better crafsmanship cause i build everything myself from start to finish.. didnt you ever learn to never judge a book by its cover??

 

Yea..FI sucks.

 

ya...what Son said..LOL...the other thing he didnt mention is powers are garbage for drifting and will hook the road in deep turns and frontflip you and your passenger off the bike(trust me,i saw it happen)not to mention you will pay near $400 and wait for months to get onelets not turn this into a "my cage is better than yours" thread and just take it for what its worth..some sick pics of a bad ***,affordable cage that comes faster than most

 

wow,thanks for blowing my pic up TNECKlooks way better like that and i fail at the internetthere is obvious similarities but the powers,905 and IMPAKTECH are actually really different in alot of ways

 

i know i know... i let it get under my skin... disclaimer.. 905 and powers are still in business for a reason ! i cant hate on that

 

yeah cause people are cheap and dont wanna spend an extra buck for something worth the quality, on top of that you need to market your cages better and you'll make some guap

 

++++77788880000111999!!!

 

so i really sat there and read every word of sons post. im just sad i ordered the speed freak cage before son ever got back to me bout his cages. i own the SFM, POWERS, 905 currently and i've seen the rest in action. TYGERSHARK is gold but also IMPAKTECH is money well spent. he's taken 2 successful designs, put them togher, tweaked them and made them stronger with better material... yeah, SON DOOBY FOR PRESIDENT!!!

 

looks stout, how is drift clearance?

 

the clearance for drifts is $$$$ive never scraped cage on a drift EVER...my boy with a powers cant even TRY to lean a drift without skidding out his lower barsick avatar SKETCHY!!is that a GOPRO shot pulled off film????

 

it sure is!

 

You only pm'd me half of this SON. lol If you're using DOM I will def. buy from you when I get some cash or sell my damper.

Plus another diff. is customer service and shipping time. I know most co. it takes 3 weeks or more to recieve a cage and customer serv. is a 4 on a 1-10 scale. SON def. pm'd me back with a quickness and answered all my questions. I was weary due to the chromoly cause if a metal is too strong, the cage will hold up but mounting points will not, but DOM sounds like a winner. And so far I haven't heard of anyone breaking mounts so now I'm not too worried about it.
There is a few co. out there I've used that has both the customer service and fast shipping, OMR & HoHeyDesigns have both, and now from what I've read from others SON does as well.
And yes I've bought and know people who've bought from the rest, not putting them down, just saying.
When $$$ over rides quality and customer service, sorry it's time to quit.
Cause with out quality and customer service, a co. will go down hill pretty quick, as all have seen.

Glad to hear SON is stepping up and putting research, time, and quality in his cages.


Marc

 

I have to agree that the customer service is killer with Impaktech. I've hit up his myspace multiple times with the random shopping questions and it never takes more than a day to hear back. I dont know anything about other companies but hope they have their game on lock as well as it seems Impaktech's Customer Service does.

 

sickness!!!imma go fab up a mount for mine nowwhere/what did you use and wheres it mount off of??

 

IMPAKTECH HAS IT ALL!!CASE CLOSED PEOPLE!!!TRY ONE OUT,YOU WONT BE DISSAPOINTED

 

i wasnt going to read all that, i dont care enough.

I am just saying they look similar. lol

and whoever said powers cages drag when you drift are wrong.

 

My 905 that I got for my 900RR back in 2006 appeared to be made out of EMT (thin wall conduit) some may argue this....... I've bent some conduit in my time, I know the difference between conduit and steel pipe. perhaps it was not conduit, if not, it was damn close to it and in my opinion not the right material for the application. I put alot of logic into things..... maybe we have it all wrong, maybe we want a weak cage to hold up to 1000's of light crashes but destroys itself in a massive screw up..... cheaper to replace a cage than a frame right? just the labor alone is worth that of a new cage.

 

if its built like a powers and as strong as a powers but they send it to u in 3 weeks or less not 3-6 mths like powers with good coustomer support then thats the company for me. unless scrapeworks ever gets back into the game.

 

This is my logic as well, my understanding is chromoly is too strong and i think in a pancake situation it will break motor mounts. So I would much rather replace the cage than a frame or motor.
The DOM which I've never heard of seems like a good inbetween, but that's just a guess.
That's probably why Tigershark has great reviews, their cage have spring loaded sliders to absorb some impact before initial contact between the cage and concrete. Kind of like a crumplezone.