k sounds good

 

I was plannin on gettin one but I'm gonna wait 3 months til I destroy this one.

 

to bad for you theres no wager on that

 

It's your time and money not mine .at least you will be able to use the cage over

 

this is true. lemme see a ts cage break a twite frame.

 

Dayum

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damn ive thrown out f3 frames before. when my frame cracks, im doing this.
id prefer some other swingarm that can fit a 190 a little better

 

f4i swingarm or rr swingarm maybe? f4i is shorter.

 

Maybe, maybe not.you still haven't explained why you think a Tygershark is a good cage. It's heavy. Doesn't flex
.it applies a significant amount of torque to a clearly weak stress point which was never designed to take a hit. Every 636 that I have seen get beat up with a Tygershark cracks the frame in a relative short time. I know you have more knowledge on fabrication then I do.I only been working on heavy equipment for the past 13years

 

Well actually the steel that is used in his cages is a cold rolled DOM steel. Cold rolled steel usually has some memory to it. So in reality the solid tube can flex probably 1/2 and go right back to normal. Plus the rubber dampers inside of the spring absorb SOOOO much of the impact.

Now if you look at the fohfab cage, its real thin cage tubing. Real basic and caveman design. Welding to the kickstand sucks because eventually it will damage the kickstand and the bolts like it did on neals bike. And what if you bend the cage, then you need a new cage AND kickstand??

636 frame will break with ANY cage. If fohfab cage was so amazing that it didnt break the cage. Then he'd be making a ton of money on those cages..

 

Neal whats going on this weekend thinking about a friday and saturday trip

 

And in reference to the weight issue. From everything i have observed in stunting. no one really cares much about weight savings. example : 929 forks are heavier then f4i forks. twite frame is heavier then stock alloy frame. extra fans added to radiator , steel subframes, extra calipers, extra master cylinders. All of this adds weight..

 

Im doing this with the $300 I'm saving from cracking my 636 frame

 

find me a quote where I once ever said I have more knowledge than you I started typing out a whole long response to you but there's no point lmao. We just dont agree and thats cool. When my frame breaks you can say I told you so and I'll say I could break a frame with any cage on just like I did with my F4i. So take that.

 

Dont know yet. I'm waiting for swingarm bearings to come in so I can finish up the new 636 so I can destroy that frame before December. So I dunno what I'm doing yet

 

The spring is nothing but snake oil it is just there to give you that fuzzy feeling kinda like the guys at bike nite that buy the top rated tires and only wear them down the middle. In. Actuality on a truly hard hit the slider jams up and actually applies more leverage on the frame .funny that you bought up fohfab cuz I never mentioned it .but I will say the fohfab cage is. Lighter, does not stick out as far. Designed to. Direct the force of. Impact to the strongest part of the frame. I have yet to see a. Properly. Maintained. 636 crack its frame with a fohfab cage. Imo I would rather replace a cage then a frame,just for you anthony I will make sure my kickstand is removable when I get my 636finished, cuz we all know how. Expensive kickstands are. Roman is an artist and isn't really interested in pumping out cages on a jig.caveman sums up the2 point design which was later bandaided with the cross. Brace. Sure it comes with a warranty, so. Do. Midas. Mufflers. Fohfab or. Not I can't see why anyone would want to put such a poorly designed cage like a tygershark. On there. Bike, its better suited as a pushbar

 

Youre right the spring doesnt do much at all. BUT the rubber damper INSIDE of the spring does ALOT. it absorbs most of that stress from the impact. You never touched base on the type of metals used on the cages..

 

oooh oooh an internet fight w/o me involved lmao.