stunting as career
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Re: stunting as career
I don't really see it from the riders perspective, I tend to see the desk jockey perspective. and I'm still pretty new in the overall scheme of things. I'll pick up.
I've hit a few events where I slept in my car, and packed my food, and ran out of gas unexpectedly. It sucked! But I also don't get paid to go to events, I don't win anything at events. The people I meet at them however are part of the bigger career picture for me, and I wouldn't have spent every dollar I had, made more and spent that on this if I didn't think that you guys are going to make it.
Last edited by excessa; Aug 5, 2008 at 09:14 AM.
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Re: stunting as career
this thread is ridiculous..
Nick acting like he knows what hes talking about, and teach thinking brittons making millions.. hahaha.. come on now!
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yall want advice on how to turn your hobby into a career?
first off.. dont worry about what others do worry about yourself.
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Ive been riding professionally as in MY ONLY income for over 4 years. I am VERY happy with my career, my finaces, my life. I am 26 years old and doing better than a lot of people i know that are signifigantly older.
money doesnt come easy, or quick in this sport, and bottom line you have to be willing to make sacrifices and DO WORK. a lot of the riders on this site are familiar with traveling, and I appreciate that. not trying to say i am any better in any way but i will say that ive been home for 5 days over the past 3 months, put over 60,000 miles on a brand new truck in one year, and spent so much time flying and shipping bikes that i can pretty much navigate any airport in the country with my eyes closed, walk into almost any dealership in the country and know people, and know my UPS driver better than half my collueages..
I did 50 shows last year.
I own 4 stunt bikes and only one is actually in my garage the rest are in trucks and crates being shipped ... to who knows where..
in just the last 6 weeks ive performed or attended events in (and in order) : Lincoln NE, Idaho Falls ID, Elko Nevada, Sacramento CA, Helena MO, NYC, Laguna Seca CA, Boston MA. ( dont forget the days of business meetings, conference calls, event planning, schedule updating, riding practice, and mechanic work squeeze in and around all of that)
was in boston yesterday, leave for LA tomorrow, and have a show in Chicago next week..
no again i gotta stress im not sitting here trying to brag, I am sitting here trying to answer the question of is it worth it to be a "pro"
I LOVE my job. I LOVE traveling, I love the road, I love the people I enjoy the lifestyle.. after 4-5 years of different city every week there are times it wears on ya, swapping motors in random dealerships in towns you never knew exsisted only to do it again a few days later.. not so much fun after the 5th time, but its part of it. real simply formula if you wanna succeed, just DO WORK!
there is no handbook on what to do, and how to do it. you gotta figure that out on your own, and we all think we have the best and right idea.. there is no right or best idea, there are just people trying to hustle.
there has never been a day where i have regretted chasing the dream that is my reality, there have been many hard moments but never regrets. whatever your instentive to do it, kudos cherish it and keep at it if you want. if you stop having fun... then do yourself a favor and just stop.
again i stress, dont worry about what others do, and dont listen to anyone but yourself...
the work to income ratio of this job is definately lopsidded on the work end, but to me its never been about just money. The rewards of this job are beyond anything i could ever have gotten elsewhere
**Nick I dunno whats your pissing problem is lately man, but ive been pretty outta my way nice to you this year and the fake reciprocity ive gotten in return, coupled with the last few SL references to me youve spouted off... ya whatever.. keep it up**
-kane
Nick acting like he knows what hes talking about, and teach thinking brittons making millions.. hahaha.. come on now!
--
yall want advice on how to turn your hobby into a career?
first off.. dont worry about what others do worry about yourself.
-
Ive been riding professionally as in MY ONLY income for over 4 years. I am VERY happy with my career, my finaces, my life. I am 26 years old and doing better than a lot of people i know that are signifigantly older.
money doesnt come easy, or quick in this sport, and bottom line you have to be willing to make sacrifices and DO WORK. a lot of the riders on this site are familiar with traveling, and I appreciate that. not trying to say i am any better in any way but i will say that ive been home for 5 days over the past 3 months, put over 60,000 miles on a brand new truck in one year, and spent so much time flying and shipping bikes that i can pretty much navigate any airport in the country with my eyes closed, walk into almost any dealership in the country and know people, and know my UPS driver better than half my collueages..
I did 50 shows last year.
I own 4 stunt bikes and only one is actually in my garage the rest are in trucks and crates being shipped ... to who knows where..
in just the last 6 weeks ive performed or attended events in (and in order) : Lincoln NE, Idaho Falls ID, Elko Nevada, Sacramento CA, Helena MO, NYC, Laguna Seca CA, Boston MA. ( dont forget the days of business meetings, conference calls, event planning, schedule updating, riding practice, and mechanic work squeeze in and around all of that)
was in boston yesterday, leave for LA tomorrow, and have a show in Chicago next week..
no again i gotta stress im not sitting here trying to brag, I am sitting here trying to answer the question of is it worth it to be a "pro"
I LOVE my job. I LOVE traveling, I love the road, I love the people I enjoy the lifestyle.. after 4-5 years of different city every week there are times it wears on ya, swapping motors in random dealerships in towns you never knew exsisted only to do it again a few days later.. not so much fun after the 5th time, but its part of it. real simply formula if you wanna succeed, just DO WORK!
there is no handbook on what to do, and how to do it. you gotta figure that out on your own, and we all think we have the best and right idea.. there is no right or best idea, there are just people trying to hustle.
there has never been a day where i have regretted chasing the dream that is my reality, there have been many hard moments but never regrets. whatever your instentive to do it, kudos cherish it and keep at it if you want. if you stop having fun... then do yourself a favor and just stop.
again i stress, dont worry about what others do, and dont listen to anyone but yourself...
the work to income ratio of this job is definately lopsidded on the work end, but to me its never been about just money. The rewards of this job are beyond anything i could ever have gotten elsewhere
**Nick I dunno whats your pissing problem is lately man, but ive been pretty outta my way nice to you this year and the fake reciprocity ive gotten in return, coupled with the last few SL references to me youve spouted off... ya whatever.. keep it up**
-kane
*This post was not meant to put anyone down. Its just as i see it. We should have a reunion in 15 years to see who is doing what
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Re: stunting as career
The way i see it is you make all your money off shows and Nick makes his at comps. Very different yes but i have to say i would rather do a show and get paid money then travel around like a circus clown just to have to fight for a pay check to get funds to travel to the next big ring event. The way i see it is the comps will last because the promoters are going to make all the money off the riders when it gets bigger and the riders will make just enough to get by. my big thing is the future. Alot of the riders do not have **** to fall back on once they get hurt and can no longer ride. Have fun in 20-25 years living on the street. Kane what you are doing i can see setting yourself up for something you can do once you can not ride anymore. like marketing for rocket nation or Kawasaki. All i can say is i would rather be in your shoes.
*This post was not meant to put anyone down. Its just as i see it. We should have a reunion in 15 years to see who is doing what
*This post was not meant to put anyone down. Its just as i see it. We should have a reunion in 15 years to see who is doing what
so i am trying to hit as many comps as my lifestyle will allow me and have fun while doing it......at least then if you come home with no money its not a completely wasted trip
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Re: stunting as career
The way i see it is you make all your money off shows and Nick makes his at comps. Very different yes but i have to say i would rather do a show and get paid money then travel around like a circus clown just to have to fight for a pay check to get funds to travel to the next big ring event. The way i see it is the comps will last because the promoters are going to make all the money off the riders when it gets bigger and the riders will make just enough to get by. my big thing is the future. Alot of the riders do not have **** to fall back on once they get hurt and can no longer ride. Have fun in 20-25 years living on the street. Kane what you are doing i can see setting yourself up for something you can do once you can not ride anymore. like marketing for rocket nation or Kawasaki. All i can say is i would rather be in your shoes.
*This post was not meant to put anyone down. Its just as i see it. We should have a reunion in 15 years to see who is doing what
*This post was not meant to put anyone down. Its just as i see it. We should have a reunion in 15 years to see who is doing what
+1
I respect all my friends and acquaintances that are out their hustling and chasing the dream - and I hope for nothing but the best for this sport. But I will be happy when I turn 55 and get my massive pension and still have amazing health care coverage.
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Re: stunting as career
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Re: stunting as career
this thread is ridiculous..
Nick acting like he knows what hes talking about, and teach thinking brittons making millions.. hahaha.. come on now!
--
yall want advice on how to turn your hobby into a career?
first off.. dont worry about what others do worry about yourself.
-
Ive been riding professionally as in MY ONLY income for over 4 years. I am VERY happy with my career, my finaces, my life. I am 26 years old and doing better than a lot of people i know that are signifigantly older.
money doesnt come easy, or quick in this sport, and bottom line you have to be willing to make sacrifices and DO WORK. a lot of the riders on this site are familiar with traveling, and I appreciate that. not trying to say i am any better in any way but i will say that ive been home for 5 days over the past 3 months, put over 60,000 miles on a brand new truck in one year, and spent so much time flying and shipping bikes that i can pretty much navigate any airport in the country with my eyes closed, walk into almost any dealership in the country and know people, and know my UPS driver better than half my collueages..
I did 50 shows last year.
I own 4 stunt bikes and only one is actually in my garage the rest are in trucks and crates being shipped ... to who knows where..
in just the last 6 weeks ive performed or attended events in (and in order) : Lincoln NE, Idaho Falls ID, Elko Nevada, Sacramento CA, Helena MO, NYC, Laguna Seca CA, Boston MA. ( dont forget the days of business meetings, conference calls, event planning, schedule updating, riding practice, and mechanic work squeeze in and around all of that)
was in boston yesterday, leave for LA tomorrow, and have a show in Chicago next week..
no again i gotta stress im not sitting here trying to brag, I am sitting here trying to answer the question of is it worth it to be a "pro"
I LOVE my job. I LOVE traveling, I love the road, I love the people I enjoy the lifestyle.. after 4-5 years of different city every week there are times it wears on ya, swapping motors in random dealerships in towns you never knew exsisted only to do it again a few days later.. not so much fun after the 5th time, but its part of it. real simply formula if you wanna succeed, just DO WORK!
there is no handbook on what to do, and how to do it. you gotta figure that out on your own, and we all think we have the best and right idea.. there is no right or best idea, there are just people trying to hustle.
there has never been a day where i have regretted chasing the dream that is my reality, there have been many hard moments but never regrets. whatever your instentive to do it, kudos cherish it and keep at it if you want. if you stop having fun... then do yourself a favor and just stop.
again i stress, dont worry about what others do, and dont listen to anyone but yourself...
the work to income ratio of this job is definately lopsidded on the work end, but to me its never been about just money. The rewards of this job are beyond anything i could ever have gotten elsewhere
**Nick I dunno whats your pissing problem is lately man, but ive been pretty outta my way nice to you this year and the fake reciprocity ive gotten in return, coupled with the last few SL references to me youve spouted off... ya whatever.. keep it up**
-kane
Nick acting like he knows what hes talking about, and teach thinking brittons making millions.. hahaha.. come on now!
--
yall want advice on how to turn your hobby into a career?
first off.. dont worry about what others do worry about yourself.
-
Ive been riding professionally as in MY ONLY income for over 4 years. I am VERY happy with my career, my finaces, my life. I am 26 years old and doing better than a lot of people i know that are signifigantly older.
money doesnt come easy, or quick in this sport, and bottom line you have to be willing to make sacrifices and DO WORK. a lot of the riders on this site are familiar with traveling, and I appreciate that. not trying to say i am any better in any way but i will say that ive been home for 5 days over the past 3 months, put over 60,000 miles on a brand new truck in one year, and spent so much time flying and shipping bikes that i can pretty much navigate any airport in the country with my eyes closed, walk into almost any dealership in the country and know people, and know my UPS driver better than half my collueages..
I did 50 shows last year.
I own 4 stunt bikes and only one is actually in my garage the rest are in trucks and crates being shipped ... to who knows where..
in just the last 6 weeks ive performed or attended events in (and in order) : Lincoln NE, Idaho Falls ID, Elko Nevada, Sacramento CA, Helena MO, NYC, Laguna Seca CA, Boston MA. ( dont forget the days of business meetings, conference calls, event planning, schedule updating, riding practice, and mechanic work squeeze in and around all of that)
was in boston yesterday, leave for LA tomorrow, and have a show in Chicago next week..
no again i gotta stress im not sitting here trying to brag, I am sitting here trying to answer the question of is it worth it to be a "pro"
I LOVE my job. I LOVE traveling, I love the road, I love the people I enjoy the lifestyle.. after 4-5 years of different city every week there are times it wears on ya, swapping motors in random dealerships in towns you never knew exsisted only to do it again a few days later.. not so much fun after the 5th time, but its part of it. real simply formula if you wanna succeed, just DO WORK!
there is no handbook on what to do, and how to do it. you gotta figure that out on your own, and we all think we have the best and right idea.. there is no right or best idea, there are just people trying to hustle.
there has never been a day where i have regretted chasing the dream that is my reality, there have been many hard moments but never regrets. whatever your instentive to do it, kudos cherish it and keep at it if you want. if you stop having fun... then do yourself a favor and just stop.
again i stress, dont worry about what others do, and dont listen to anyone but yourself...
the work to income ratio of this job is definately lopsidded on the work end, but to me its never been about just money. The rewards of this job are beyond anything i could ever have gotten elsewhere
**Nick I dunno whats your pissing problem is lately man, but ive been pretty outta my way nice to you this year and the fake reciprocity ive gotten in return, coupled with the last few SL references to me youve spouted off... ya whatever.. keep it up**
-kane
Damn , I wish I knew about you coming to Boston to do the shows or whatnot. I would have invite you to come with us at the spot and ride. Next time will do.
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Re: stunting as career
ok one last thing, i wasnt gonna say this cause its the internet and no matter what i say is gonna get misinterpretted by some... and there is no way to ever talk about income without sounding petty or pompus BUT...
I dunno about yall, but my moms is the greatest woman in the world. Im an only child, with a single parent mom. she is a 15 year career emergency room RN
when she told me this year, that in 07 I made more money that she did.. thats a reality check...
-kane
I dunno about yall, but my moms is the greatest woman in the world. Im an only child, with a single parent mom. she is a 15 year career emergency room RN
when she told me this year, that in 07 I made more money that she did.. thats a reality check...
-kane
I think I will keep my day job for money and stunting just for fun...
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Re: stunting as career
ninja, while jbritt may not make millions, he makes significantly more than you or i...my conversations do not include debates about motion sensor faucets or not, and i'm sure yours dont either. that was my real point.
everythign kane said is correct....he and i are similar in our direction and current situation, yet the paths we chose to get to this point are very different and will continue to be so even though we both are attaining success.
can you make a living off of being the best on a bike? not yet. my career is probably the closest yet to that scenario. but winning all the contests is not even good enough anymore...there is soooooo much more that goes into being successful in this sport and making a living off it
i said it once...i make more money in my first full time of riding than i ever have in my life, significantly. some is from comps, a lot from shows, and a lot from sponsor deals. work? i havent worked since i graduated college...do what you love and love what you do!
lets tip a couple this weekend pinky!
everythign kane said is correct....he and i are similar in our direction and current situation, yet the paths we chose to get to this point are very different and will continue to be so even though we both are attaining success.
can you make a living off of being the best on a bike? not yet. my career is probably the closest yet to that scenario. but winning all the contests is not even good enough anymore...there is soooooo much more that goes into being successful in this sport and making a living off it
i said it once...i make more money in my first full time of riding than i ever have in my life, significantly. some is from comps, a lot from shows, and a lot from sponsor deals. work? i havent worked since i graduated college...do what you love and love what you do!
lets tip a couple this weekend pinky!
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Re: stunting as career
registered nurses make pretty damn good money - and they ****** earn it. you'd be suprised.
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Re: stunting as career
ya, but the ppl that would be paying out for a show are not going to do business with someone that cant hold an intelligent convorsation. And/or speaks/writes in a way that you can't understand.
all I'm saying is that CBR Stunt(and alot of other ppl) should take 60 seconds to re-read his posts and correct any grammatical errors. spelling isn't that important, but making sense does.
all I'm saying is that CBR Stunt(and alot of other ppl) should take 60 seconds to re-read his posts and correct any grammatical errors. spelling isn't that important, but making sense does.
pinky-
just curious, does kawi offer you a retirement like 401k or something similar?
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