Learn to read Ryan, i have already wasted enough time ... i said i didn't make all my money off of B.G. for that trip, Mostly sponsor money, but i did get money from B.G. I can guarantee you that, whether you want to accept that fact or not! So quit already....

 

http://www.kawasakilive.com/bikeweek08/stuntRiding.aspx

Shows like this is what people pay to see!

 

not that i know of ..... i mostly just had steve order whatever since i couldn't read **** on the menu's and didn' t ask questions on what it really was... But no complaints about the food, the squid was at the korean bbq which i'm sure you ate at.

 

ok now this thread is officially gay, thanks vetter

 

it said " JASON BRITTON KAWASAKI COMPETITOR"
WHAT DOES HE COMPETE IN?

 

gay is what midgets are.

and you are one.

 

i call him a monkey... but i guess he could pass for a midget.... but hell, he could pass for "The Fonz" to...lol

 

only if he grows chops... he already has the super cool attitude.

 

dude the chicken and beef at those bbq places were the ****. i'd kill to have that in the states.

 

and why is that??? it looked like an average show to me..

or what should be average, with the space they were given

 

i'm with thomas...the show looked pretty good with alot of new style....i give kane a lot of credit, he still competes, and still pushes his skill level.

 

if you got sponsored to go there, why are there only BG sponsor decals on the bike???? once again dude....please realize that i'm not an idiot, if someobody else paid you to go to china your bike would CLEARLY represent that company--am i wrong?

 

Agree 100% There's always some noobs who will do it for free. Power wheelies and all.

 

This thread, minus the drama is dead on. you endanger yourselves and work your asses off to entertain a crowd who paid to be entertained.

be a pro entertain people, and get paid. Anything less is wrong and you will be taken advantage of by people who like to keep ALL that money in their pocket.


If you're not a solid negotiator find someone who is, and have them negotiate on your behalf. Same story, the pros get paid.

good thread, it benefits the sport.

as for the notion of stealing shows, undercutting is wrong. There needs to be a fairly universal pro exhibition contract template out there specifying a set day rate for pros, plus travel. Pros need to be instantly verifiable through a reliable (web) source.

Pro show and competitive riders need to get together on this and agree on a fair rate. Obviously the top ten competitors command more, and the set rate is the cheapest you can work for, if you can get paid more, get it.

I'm doing my best to pump prices up from the corporate side, but I'm walled up by the current trend of riders going cheap.

Some of you guys are total hookers, but I understand, the sport is just starting to grow and people want to do what they do, and be seen. right now, if a promotor says they can get someone to do it for free, it's hard to hold out for money because you know ******* well they will go get the free guy to come do whatever schwag wheelies he has in his bag.


In other news, the people putting on the show get to choose who rides for them, same with sponsors, they pick who reps them.

So if your sponsor goes to someone else, that person didn't steal your sponsor. What happened is, you failed to satisfy the sponsor, and you need to bring up your game. The best thing to do is to politely and calmly ask what you need to do differently, and take the advice. A worthwhile sponsor knows better than to put their brand behind the free guy so you're fairly safe from undercutting there.

It's time to push for a branded recognizable distinction between a pro and an amateur, and there should be a serious push for promoters to only use pros. and pay the riders union rate or better. I'd market the pro angle using both safety and a more organized and exciting show as hooks.

 

The more you speak ryan, the more you look like an idiot, not all the pics have been posted yet smart one... you gotta be ******* kidding me... hey Ryan, i sent you my # a couple of weeks ago, how come your bitch *** didn't ******* call since you got such a ******* issue? If you got a ******* problem with me, the we can take care of it, if not, then shut the **** up. tired of hearing/reading you cry about this. Tony was man enough to call and we talked about what was going on and as far as i know, me and him have no problems....

 

i don't have your number and you never gave it to me....verticalmischief@yahoo.com email me.

 

There's a taste for ya Ryan.... anything else you want? Now go **** yourself...... and have a nice day! And the sponsorship money was more for the exposure here versus there dipshit... want me to teach you how to ******* ride to?

 

it's posted all over the internet- 812-525-3439... I'm not a hard person at all to get ahold of, and i sent you and tony a pm on here, just like when i made my trip to wisconsin back in april, i called you and joey b and got no return on it....

 

lol yeah....ok dude....i see two stickers that may have given a few bucks.....go blow smoke up somebody else's ***, i have no time for liars.

 

you never sent me a pm dude....go tell some more stories cause i still haven't heard all of them yet