Fuck Vortex!!! Hai Rules All!!
#41
Re: Way to go HAI !
This order was for Chan Park correct? At the time of his order Geared was going out of business, and failed to tell us in a timely fashion. We had at least 20 sprockets on order from them that we had to refund or replace with something else. He had an odd size for Vortex (I am sure they didn't want to run the machines for 1 order) and it was a hardcoat, so thats why they dragged there feet I guess? Then they sent us the wrong one....blah blah blah. We could come up with a million excuses, bottom line, we didn't do it intentionally, and tried to make it up to him the best we could. Everytime we talked with him on the phone he seemed cool. If he was upset and wanted a refund, all he had to do was ask!
I still think Vortex is BS, and takes too long even for custom sprockets. If it takes that long I think they should stop offering them alltogether....ANd it kinda doesnt make sense that he got one in 4 months and then the 2nd after 6...They were both the exact same so wouldnt they make them at the same time
And I think they play favorites too, cause Weee got her custom CHIC RIDERS sprocket in like 2 weeks...
Anyways I appreciate the explanation! Id still like to know what other sprocket options you offer besides Vortex now that GS is out of business....
Last edited by JohnnyP; 07-02-2008 at 01:42 PM.
#43
Re: Way to go HAI !
Yeah thats the guy, and hes a little strange so Im sure there was some confusion on his part aswell...I dont think he understood about the odd size, because the guy that was actually paying for the stuff would have settled for a slighlty different size if it meant it would be faster then 6 months.. All he really wanted was a big sprocket for an 600RR in 520 that was black, didnt matter if it was steel, aluminum, holes, stars, etc etc....
I still think Vortex is BS, and takes too long even for custom sprockets. If it takes that long I think they should stop offering them alltogether....
And I think they play favorites too, cause Weee got her custom CHIC RIDERS sprocket in like 2 weeks...
Anyways I appreciate the explanation! Id still like to know what other sprocket options you offer besides Vortex now that GS is out of business....
I still think Vortex is BS, and takes too long even for custom sprockets. If it takes that long I think they should stop offering them alltogether....
And I think they play favorites too, cause Weee got her custom CHIC RIDERS sprocket in like 2 weeks...
Anyways I appreciate the explanation! Id still like to know what other sprocket options you offer besides Vortex now that GS is out of business....
Yeah, we offered him some other sizes, but he said he wanted the one he ordered. We usually offer other options if they are available....but anyway, we do what we can and we are usually good at being honest......but oh well, can't win em' all!
#44
Re: Way to go HAI !
That doesnt matter anymore though, the bottom line is we now know not to order Vortex anymore..Unless its in stock....
#45
#46
Re: Way to go HAI !
subframe......
i have done dealings with both hai and johnny... both are good peeps!!!
sucks it took 6 months but most small companies dont have alll the items in stock... they drop ship......
sucks vortex took so long.....
i have done dealings with both hai and johnny... both are good peeps!!!
sucks it took 6 months but most small companies dont have alll the items in stock... they drop ship......
sucks vortex took so long.....
#47
Re: Way to go HAI !
Yes and I now want to change the title of this thread to "**** YOU VORTEX!"
#51
Re: Way to go HAI !
Took 6 weeks to get my cage from hai. my bike went down the weekend b4 it finally came in. So i had a crispy cage and a fuked up bike! so i guess SI needs to be blamed too!
neway i got a 59T vortex and a 50T custom for honda f4i's 600rr's if neone interested.
neway i got a 59T vortex and a 50T custom for honda f4i's 600rr's if neone interested.
#52
Re: Way to go HAI !
In HAI's Defense They are a great small co. and have been killing it for years sometimes **** happens and I know from first hand experience there a new kid working a vortex that muffed up my order as well so don't stress I'm sure it's all a misunderstanding.
The boys at HAI are good peeps
The boys at HAI are good peeps
#55
Re: Way to go HAI !
When I first opened this thread I expected it to be props for being so great. But it was this mess, so I kept quiet until it blew over.
Now I can say it, Yay for Tice and Joe, they are awesome. Call them, buy stuff, and be nice. They kick ***.
Now I can say it, Yay for Tice and Joe, they are awesome. Call them, buy stuff, and be nice. They kick ***.
#56
Re: Way to go HAI !
i once left a brand new BMW at the vortex office for 6 months waiting for a sprocket to be made. i then went and got my bike out of vortex without so much as anything being done to it...besides being covered in metal dust and having a bolt stripped.
sweet deal.
sweet deal.
#57
Re: Way to go HAI !
I talk to chan quite regularly and he seemed to have no problem, we offered alternatives but none were taken. He wanted black and nothing else. Vortex does not keep a lot of HARDCOAT (not to be confused with the Cat5) in stock. He ordered a 55 tooth from geared. Vortex will not Hardcoat anything over 54, he was informed of this and said he needed black. We ordered 2 sprockets 251AK-54 to be exact, Vortex told us minimum of 4 weeks. We recieved one and vortex claimed a second one was never ordered. We ship one and reorder another one at 4 weeks and inform chan. Everythings cool, he asks for a EZ pull. We give him EZ pull. Mark our boss calls Vortex a week and a half ago after chan emails him. Vortex tells us that they got our 2 Hardcoat sprockets in and they have been sitting on the wall for a week cause no one knows whos sprocket it is. Vortex ships sprocket to us and we ship it to Chan. Now we have an extra special order sprocket cause Vortex screwed up.
Chan was never impatient twards me on the phone or in his emails. We explained other options and none were taken. We did as per customer requested.
If he had a problem then he should have explained it better to chan or called us direct. We would have had no problem refunding his money or finding an alternative. Joe and I are competitive stunt riders and understand the situation of having to wait on parts and not ride. This is something that we would never do intentionally.
Sorry your friend is upset and if he would contact us we would have no problems making things right. I have personally sent Chan several shirts and stickers because of shipping delays.
Also for any non american order, we are forced to wait until all parts are in before we can ship an order. Our customers do not want to pay multiple internation shipping fees top have there orders shipped as parts come in. We covered over $40 dollars in extra shipping just to get the sprockets to them as they came in and never asked for money. We knew that was our responsibility as we are the middle man helping customers to get their parts direct from manufactors.
Thanks,
Tice
407-447-1176
www.HAIbikeshop.com
Chan was never impatient twards me on the phone or in his emails. We explained other options and none were taken. We did as per customer requested.
If he had a problem then he should have explained it better to chan or called us direct. We would have had no problem refunding his money or finding an alternative. Joe and I are competitive stunt riders and understand the situation of having to wait on parts and not ride. This is something that we would never do intentionally.
Sorry your friend is upset and if he would contact us we would have no problems making things right. I have personally sent Chan several shirts and stickers because of shipping delays.
Also for any non american order, we are forced to wait until all parts are in before we can ship an order. Our customers do not want to pay multiple internation shipping fees top have there orders shipped as parts come in. We covered over $40 dollars in extra shipping just to get the sprockets to them as they came in and never asked for money. We knew that was our responsibility as we are the middle man helping customers to get their parts direct from manufactors.
Thanks,
Tice
407-447-1176
www.HAIbikeshop.com
#58
Re: Way to go HAI !
i hope this doesnt happen to me...i just orderd a 60 vortex from HAI and a two brothers pipe and some other **** but those two were the ones that were going to take a week or two...i hope it dont turn into 6 months lol....
#59
Re: Way to go HAI !
Bit of a thread jack but...
I will only have stuff on my site if its in stock or clearly stated period.
Retailing is having stock to sell.. some UK lads went to HAI when they came to watch stunt wars and they had no stock for there needs (which were wide) so I started stuntbikestore.com so people in europe can get parts quick (uk 24hrs europe 48-72hrs) from stock. We dont use vortex as we get our own sprockets made but sick does take its time to come so only gets listed when its here
A small icon to say if its a stock item or not would surelly help
I will only have stuff on my site if its in stock or clearly stated period.
Retailing is having stock to sell.. some UK lads went to HAI when they came to watch stunt wars and they had no stock for there needs (which were wide) so I started stuntbikestore.com so people in europe can get parts quick (uk 24hrs europe 48-72hrs) from stock. We dont use vortex as we get our own sprockets made but sick does take its time to come so only gets listed when its here
A small icon to say if its a stock item or not would surelly help
#60
Re: Way to go HAI !
the only downfall to having sprockets in stock is that you are not going to need 95% of them
there are so many different bikes out there that people run, and not everyone is going to be watning the same size sprocket
HAI offers from 40tooth to 74tooth
so for one year and model of bike thats 34 sprockets, then there are different models so kawi, honda, suzuki, and yamaha so thats already 136 sprockets, not to mention they would have to carry 34 sprockets for EACH type of bike that brand makes and then theres different pitches so that even makes more sprockets to carry, and what if someone wants theres in a different color like the guy in this thread that ordered his? then you have to special order it anyone so your in-stock sprockets wouldnt even matter 'cause you would have to order it
so it turns it would not be beneficial or realistic to carry that many sprockets when you know you wouldnt even sell half of them, i dont know many motorcycle shops around here that even carry parts in-stock that you could just walk up to and buy, you would end up in so much debt with on-sold products that know one wants
edit: you wanna get mad at someone get mad at the brand you bought, not the buisness you bought it through, they are just tryin to make a living and not **** people over, because if they intentionally **** over people, they are going to lose reputation and buisness
there are so many different bikes out there that people run, and not everyone is going to be watning the same size sprocket
HAI offers from 40tooth to 74tooth
so for one year and model of bike thats 34 sprockets, then there are different models so kawi, honda, suzuki, and yamaha so thats already 136 sprockets, not to mention they would have to carry 34 sprockets for EACH type of bike that brand makes and then theres different pitches so that even makes more sprockets to carry, and what if someone wants theres in a different color like the guy in this thread that ordered his? then you have to special order it anyone so your in-stock sprockets wouldnt even matter 'cause you would have to order it
so it turns it would not be beneficial or realistic to carry that many sprockets when you know you wouldnt even sell half of them, i dont know many motorcycle shops around here that even carry parts in-stock that you could just walk up to and buy, you would end up in so much debt with on-sold products that know one wants
edit: you wanna get mad at someone get mad at the brand you bought, not the buisness you bought it through, they are just tryin to make a living and not **** people over, because if they intentionally **** over people, they are going to lose reputation and buisness
Last edited by Afflicted; 07-03-2008 at 12:04 PM.