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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

Originally Posted by DSOG Thomas
The rule is not talking about platforms its talking about 12 bars... which get scraped and become razor sharp on the top edge... which is coincidentally the edge that will be chopping you in the back of the neck if its to far out and too tall
so any size "platforms" are allowed?
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

so your not allowed 12 bars anymore in xdl or you just cant have ones that come up more then a 1inch from the seat?

if this is true i bet alot more people (or mainly just the ones who had extended 12 bars) are gonna start runnin that platform in the seat
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

Here is the simple wording.... no train tracks with sharp edges...

Nobody really runs huge bars anymore, but I wanted to put that rule out there, because its only a matter of time until someone gets crippled from a stoppie wreck... don't get misled, this **** is dangerous and not addressing the dangers because of "what the riders like" is wholly irresponsible... do what you like, but your bars "should" be within a certain size and they MUST have all sharp edges removed

long extended bars have the opposite effect of seat platforms in the terms of leverage by the way
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

Originally Posted by DSOG Thomas
long extended bars have the opposite effect of seat platforms in the terms of leverage by the way
i wasnt talking about like 10' clock bars that are really long i meant like

this


and like pfeiffers bar



those are the ones i was talking about when i said "extended" i just worded it wrong
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

the edges better be blunt... I would prefer the bar be below the rear seat, but I said an inch above to give the guys some leeway...

its about establishing a sense of responsibility for what "can" happen... I want you guys to consider all things when your bar has that sharp edge and you say ehhh so what...then not only does it hit you but cuts you as well..... or you jump on without your helmet for just a second, and you cake yourself doing a short coaster like the guy on here just did.......... or you leave that forkseal leaking onto your rotors because you want to go ride and it goes from slipping to full lock in a stoppie

yes there are rules and they are for your safety, not mine... the bar thing.. ehh it only affects you..and when it does affect you, it means you have flipped a stoppie anyways, so its more of a secondary thing

but take for example the oil leaking... it may not affect you, but say the rider after you slips and falls under the bike in a fast circle and breaks their ankle..

if you read the tech info it states that these are all guidelines and not guarantees of safety and that it is ultimately the riders responsibility to ensure proper motorcycle maintenance and safety
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

i agree... with the saftey rules...
the leaking oil for example...
i expierenced that at a show this weekend...

overheated the bike doing a standstill burn out an poped the tire...
coolant spraying out all over the shop while it was in the shop an me an tony got a tire change an both of us slide out on the slick asphalt within 5 mins of riding...
no one was hurt but it coulda been prevented and coulda caused a problem...

if your competeing your bike should be in good condition not leaking seals an whatnot...
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

Originally Posted by DSOG Thomas
the edges better be blunt... I would prefer the bar be below the rear seat, but I said an inch above to give the guys some leeway...

its about establishing a sense of responsibility for what "can" happen... I want you guys to consider all things when your bar has that sharp edge and you say ehhh so what...then not only does it hit you but cuts you as well..... or you jump on without your helmet for just a second, and you cake yourself doing a short coaster like the guy on here just did.......... or you leave that forkseal leaking onto your rotors because you want to go ride and it goes from slipping to full lock in a stoppie

yes there are rules and they are for your safety, not mine... the bar thing.. ehh it only affects you..and when it does affect you, it means you have flipped a stoppie anyways, so its more of a secondary thing

but take for example the oil leaking... it may not affect you, but say the rider after you slips and falls under the bike in a fast circle and breaks their ankle..

if you read the tech info it states that these are all guidelines and not guarantees of safety and that it is ultimately the riders responsibility to ensure proper motorcycle maintenance and safety

Good idea.
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

Where can I find a full list of these safety guidelines? I am always pointing out these and other unsafe things to riders.

Can you post them for viewing/ download?
Or better yet lets get together a bike check STICKY
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

this is a good rule.....healing from mishaps sucks.....anyway you can prevent an injury is a good thing...
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

oh booo f ing hooooo . thats a stupid rule i'm sorry . we are stunt riders right ?? i seen a few people get there fingers cut in the chain so chain guards are a must ??
i mean it will def weed out the jokers but i just dont want to see it go rule crazy .

dampners in stoppie contest ?? i can keep going . sign the dam release and break your neck who cares .




i really dont care but its fun to type
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

Yeah makes alot of sense to add that.. Just wondering.. What's the purpose of the platforms in the seat?
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

good idea, i'm happy my bar was tiny instead of breaking my back it broke ribs. could of been worse. safety is a most.:YEAH
Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

Originally Posted by Nick Apex
Your scorpion spine destroyers and the XDL new rules = the fucked. Just like my endos.

okay well i jumped the gun on my post before talking to the xdl source himself "Thomas".

The "spine destroyers" that will not be tolerated are the ones that become razer pointy from scrapes. Its your decision to run a 12 bar that could harm you, however the ones that are long and pointy "train tracks" - thomas quote. will not be tolerated due to obvious safety reasons.

I understand and agree with the new XDL safety guidlines now that "platform bars" will be allowed in the use of competition!!!

Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Re: Teach and Bubash

Originally Posted by CRAZY DAN
apex is this rule for real?

how many riders have been hurt from this? ya i know only a few are running this. but look at teach, hes flipped numerous stoppies and walked away. there are plenty of other things on a bike that could potentially spear you.

the only reason i challenge this is because im actually thinking about taking my 12 bar off and building a pfieffer bar on the back. reason im doing this is because the hole in seat set up is to cramped for my legs!


whack rule!

You've got it, a Pfeiffer bar!!! im 6ft 2" and im way over the top of the bike... no hander O's are sooo hard and i usedto do them when i had my 'Novice stunt bike stabiliser bar' (twelve bar) on! gotta fab me one of those Pfeieffer bars... Also make a good candy product with a pic on the front "Eat the new Pfeiffer Bar and you to can no handed Circle wheelie"!

ok i'll go now
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