F4 Conversion to F4I

Old Nov 2, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

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jmo come to az to ride next weekend. Washington dudes are coming down that weekend. Should be a really good session.
who is comin down that is a long drive how many hrs from sac
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

JMO...he is from Cali. Not too bad of a drive. Need to get more footage for hotsauce 6.
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

9 Hour drive from Sac
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

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9 Hour drive from Sac
yep,9 hours..... if your doing 120
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

the reason to change the head is the cam pulse generator. its a small sensor in the head on the shifter side. its not there on f4.
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

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Im about to do that swap, I know the heads have to be swapped, but didnt know anything about the cam pulse gen. So do I just swap the f4 c.p.g. for the f4i c.p.g.?
yes here i go givin away the secerts on the clutch side remove the small cover and the little wheele with ears on it change that and the sensor that goes with it and all other sensors on block without that there will be no spark. took me acouple days to figure that out, water pump and fitting on block are also different from there it is easy:YEAH
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

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yes here i go givin away the secerts on the clutch side remove the small cover and the little wheele with ears on it change that and the sensor that goes with it and all other sensors on block without that there will be no spark. took me acouple days to figure that out, water pump and fitting on block are also different from there it is easy:YEAH
hell yeah thanks man
Old Nov 2, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

eveyone here said it wouldnt work but the bike runs great
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

I helped (meaning, he paid, I did the work) swap a wrecked F4 into an F4i in...2002 or so for a friend.

I had only been into bikes about 3 years then and there was a lot I didn't know. I was completely unaware of the CPG and wasn't much into the internet. That was a real headache for awhile.

He only paid $1K bucks for a clean title wrecked F4 in decent shape. He got all the F4i bodywork, seats, lights, tank, etc. off ebay for less than 1K. That's where the whole swap idea started. I thought it was take a couple hours to get the lights sorted out, but then he wanted to swap to the fuel injection and it turned into a month long pain in the ***/learning experience for me.

Whether you should do it or not, it depends on your situation. It may be cheaper/easier/faster to sell your F4 and buy an F4i. If your resourceful and mechanical and your F4 is trashed you might be better off doing the swap. However, if you have to ask...
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

hi cole.
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

so you can put the F4I CPG in the f4 head?
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

Originally Posted by jmo
yes here i go givin away the secerts on the clutch side remove the small cover and the little wheele with ears on it change that and the sensor that goes with it and all other sensors on block without that there will be no spark. took me acouple days to figure that out, water pump and fitting on block are also different from there it is easy:YEAH
sorry for bringing back this old thread ...
Im in the middle of a conversion and I need to buy the CDI , do I need to buy it with the ignition keys too?

and what is jmo talking about ?
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

Originally Posted by cjstunts
you need the head, harness, right and left controls, CDI box, reg/rectifier, a few other things. f4 and f4i is same block and gas tank
TANKS ARE DIFFERENT.F4I HAS ALOT BIGGER HOLE IN THE BOTTOM FOT THE FUELPUMP
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

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TANKS ARE DIFFERENT.F4I HAS ALOT BIGGER HOLE IN THE BOTTOM FOT THE FUELPUMP
what does this have to do with my question ??
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

talking about the cam pulse generator....f4 doesnt have one......your f4 engine will need to have an f4i head installed so you can install the cpg, otherwise you will never have any spark!! and i would get the harness complete includeing ignition for the f4i. i dont think any of the engine electronics on the f4 are going to work for the f4i engine...and yes you will need a new tank w/ a fuel pump!
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

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talking about the cam pulse generator....f4 doesnt have one......your f4 engine will need to have an f4i head installed so you can install the cpg, otherwise you will never have any spark!! and i would get the harness complete includeing ignition for the f4i. i dont think any of the engine electronics on the f4 are going to work for the f4i engine...and yes you will need a new tank w/ a fuel pump!
thanks man
I already got the gas tank, fuel pump, airbox, injection head, full harness ... i still need the rectifier and the cdi unit and this is why I was wondering if the cdi unit needs to be bought with the ignition keys as a pair - I know from my RR that the ignition key has a chip inside and its read by the cdi
does this makes sense ?
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

oh...i see... im not knowin about that, but i doubt it..... i have heard of ppls resistor in the ignition goin out on the f4i and just getting another ignition off egay to fix the prob....so i think you will be ok on that but that is just a thought not a fact....
Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

I just converted mine, best thing ive ever done. This doesnt really answer any of the questions in this thread, but thats cos i cant be arsed to go back and read all the replies

You do need the ECU, barrel, coded key and reader. Not sure about US models, but UK ones have the HISS, so each ECU is coded to the key, which makes them dearer, You can get them blanked, but otherwise you will need to buy them together.
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Re: F4 Conversion to F4I

things are wied across the pond!!! and they talk a little wierd too...hahaha j/k..... seriously tho!!

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