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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Re: Choppin peoples hands off in the stunt game

Originally Posted by excessa
Thomas clearly did not want to be involved, for personal reasons. How is that shady Yogurt?
Its sounded like you were quick to try and chop Thomas out of the whole deal. If you were for real in this hole bit you would have been quick to try and fix everything with Thomas instead you tried to go around him. I think your a joke I seen you at stuntwars at hooters inn. You told me that you were filming a documentary and instantly I took you as a joke there was not a camera to be found and it was 3am and you were wearing a dress and heels...walking around with all the people who were smoking and parting hello what a better time to get footage what a joke.

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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Re: Choppin peoples hands off in the stunt game

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Its sounded like you were quick to try and chop Thomas out of the whole deal. If you were for real in this hole bit you would have been quick to try and fix everything with Thomas instead you tried to go around him. I think your a joke I seen you at stuntwars at hooters inn. You told me that you were filming a documentary and instantly I took you as a joke there was not a camera to be found and it was 3am and you were wearing a dress and heels...walking around with all the people who were smoking and parting hello what a better time to get footage what a joke.
Do I have to film constantly? I needed 44 minutes of footage, good footage. I have endless footage. I was there to film AC and to get some comments from a couple of the stuntwars guys about the changes in venue. That's it. Hells yeah I had fun the rest of the time. What are you, my mom? Am I not allowed to have fun or something, people? I have a note from myself saying it's ok if I party and have a good time. I can even get laid if I want to.

Ya know?

You make a good point about the other thing though. I have no regard for him personally, and I was hasty to cut him out. I'd like to do a better job of not letting my personal feelings influence business decisions, because that's actually important to me and I didn't notice myself doing it. I'll try harder.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by excessa
Thomas, I'm not asking you to trust endorse whatever me. Leave me alone would be about all I'd ask of you at this point.

Todd did not seek my assistance, I offered, I saw an place where I could help and I offered. If you guys want to hang someone it'll have to be someone else. I'm not gaining my cred off of other people nor was I trying to accomplish something sneaky.

Without a sanctioning body the sport doesn't move forward, and with something like that, getting hung up on the particulars can stall you for precious months and you can lose your best window of opportunity. Sometimes in that situation another individual can kick start the process. It's was an offer and an act of kindness received with animosity only by the one person I most expected that reaction from.

Granted I could have handled it better in Thomases direction but have no motivation to really talk to him at all.

As I said, it's a retractable gift, no harm no foul. I know one of the guys involved still wanted it as of this morning and I talk to the other guy monday, so they can have it or I'll take it. I'm all done caring about this now, that's all I had to contribute to forming a sanctioning body, nothing to see here everyone can move along. Sorry I tried and failed. It happens sometimes.

so now the road gets tough and you are over it????

damn all you had to do was explain yourself... u are lucky you quit now, because the stunt road is waaay tougher than that

FYI.. xdl is its own sanctioning body and has a good relationship with stuntfest and stuntwars.. at some point we will be looking at ways to integrate the standings, while keeping our own individual events... the reason points wont really work is because not enough riders have enough money to travel to each event.. so basically, whoever can hit the most events and place top 5 would win.. even if there was a rider who could only attend half the events but they placed 1st everytime....

but regional qualifiers work well and if we can have all 3 promoters use the same judging criteria for individual freestyle then we could utilize the standings from all events to place qualifiers for a final event... at this final event we would crown a national... or possibly even world title...

The final event would have to be held in a great city at a cool location

ex. Las vegas at a casino

I could call said parties and get this done right now... now explain to me what we need some unknown person to come in and set up a corporation for??

dont say **** else... just explain that!! If your answer makes sense then I will drop everything
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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and personally you can think whatever you want about me... I personally think you are trying to come in and leech what you can off of stuntriding, either for monetary reasons or popularity...you have zero credibility

you think Im a dick or an *******.. ok well at least im a credible *******


sorry your feelings got hurt and I questioned your motives and questioned you about the things you have been telling everyone...I should have just kept my trap shut and nodded in agreeance like everyone else
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Re: Choppin peoples hands off in the stunt game

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so now the road gets tough and you are over it????

damn all you had to do was explain yourself... u are lucky you quit now, because the stunt road is waaay tougher than that

FYI.. xdl is its own sanctioning body and has a good relationship with stuntfest and stuntwars.. at some point we will be looking at ways to integrate the standings, while keeping our own individual events... the reason points wont really work is because not enough riders have enough money to travel to each event.. so basically, whoever can hit the most events and place top 5 would win.. even if there was a rider who could only attend half the events but they placed 1st everytime....

but regional qualifiers work well and if we can have all 3 promoters use the same judging criteria for individual freestyle then we could utilize the standings from all events to place qualifiers for a final event... at this final event we would crown a national... or possibly even world title...

The final event would have to be held in a great city at a cool location

ex. Las vegas at a casino

I could call said parties and get this done right now... now explain to me what we need some unknown person to come in and set up a corporation for??

dont say **** else... just explain that!! If your answer makes sense then I will drop everything
I didn't say you needed some unknown person. I said I offered to help and individuals other than yourself accepted, but I wanted your people to be involved and overstepped my bounds to include you. I'm out because it's time, and I was done with this aggravation here anyhow, I'm nice but who is that ****** nice?

The ball is in Todds hands now. And Scotts when he gets back. There is no reason for you to ever have to deal with me again at all.

It's a good night for both of us.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Big deal about my feelings, I've got more. Your mistaken opinion of me and what I am up to is a substantial part of my dislike for you, the rest being your attitude and behavior.

We done now?
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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All I stepped off of was that one corporation. I'm in a hurry to set up my own. **** giving up, I finished. I need to be away from the sanctioning body to be an agent or I can get in big trouble and any competitive stuntriders I have could be penalized for my involvement. That's why I didn't go online yesterday and set up my own company. But I want to first thing monday so this needed to move.

Sorry for all the edits people, I am a spaz.

Can you see by that fact there that I actually did this just to help? It'll benefit me long term and sure you guys would have done it on your own but it would have taken longer and **** waiting around.

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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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damn I guess I gotta stop booking shows and announcing and running comps.. I could get in trouble and my competitors could get penalized
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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I think you might want to look into the legalities of being an agent on a sanctioning committee for the same sport that you represent competitive riders in. I am pretty sure there are rules about that.

MCing not so much, but yeah, if you are an agent for competitve riders be aware of the legalities. You could and should be on some committess but there'll be a conflict of interests if you're on the board or a judge as an agent.

You should be running comps, that's what it's all about. But agents being on sanctioning boards or judging comittees can then be accused of fixing events, and really have no way to prove they didn't. If nothing else it's wise and ethical to distance myself while I'm memorizing regulatory statutes for AMA and FMX and seeing how they apply to me.

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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Re: Choppin peoples hands off in the stunt game

Originally Posted by excessa

Can you see by that fact there that I actually did this just to help? It'll benefit me long term and sure you guys would have done it on your own but it would have taken longer and **** waiting around.

I dont see how you think its going to benefit you down the road? What do you think that because you Help set one little thing up {that thomas could have done on his own}that there going to just start throwing money at you if/when the sport blows up?
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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pretty sure ehh?? hmmmm

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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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so are you teach's agent?
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Why is this important to you? Ask the man. He should be my manager. Thomas I can do this, just hold on or be a dick to me while I make things happen. I don't expect a damned thing to ever happen overnight, even though sometimes they do. I don't expect it. I work at it. And keep working until it falls into place. So much more fun with a giant heckler.


It will take a little time to gel, I'll either fail and fade away or I'll make it and be really happy. That's what I have right now, just enough juice to be tenacious because I know what I'm capable of and you don't.

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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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If she was his Agent she wouldnt say "ask the man"
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Its important to me because you have been telling people that **** to gain acceptance.. the same way you told scott I was involved in your plan to gain acceptance from him and kevin

and trust me.. I already know the answer without asking him...




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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Damn Excessa yo a nut case, will you be my managaaarrrr! All of us at Servin It Up are highly disffrunctional unn organunalized indrividuals I tink you fit rite up in herrrrr/
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Re: Choppin peoples hands off in the stunt game

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I dont see how you think its going to benefit you down the road? What do you think that because you Help set one little thing up {that thomas could have done on his own}that there going to just start throwing money at you if/when the sport blows up?

No, I'm looking more big picture. The faster the sport blows up, the bigger the guys I'm booking will get, the more successful my little agency will be, and the better off a bunch of people I really like will be.

That's how it will benefit me, it could yet be a well spent effort.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Damn Excessa yo a nut case, will you be my managaaarrrr! All of us at Servin It Up are highly disffrunctional unn organunalized indrividuals I tink you fit rite up in herrrrr/
I'm no manager, but I know a lot of people and find it really easy to convince people that the riders I think are great really are great.

I couldn't do a thing for you, even though you're a great rider, my lack of enthusiasm for you as an individual would ring true in every word I said about you.

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