Deisel vs. Gas
#21
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get a older ford 7.3 not the 6.0 if you go ford. the newer 6.0 have problems blowing head gasket. I have a dp-tuner on the fly for a chip and it is the best thing ever for the fords :YEAH All i do is oil changes and it runs fine. i have changed the fuel filter once and it was 26.00. Mine makes around 450-500 h.p and about 850 lbs tq. plus the newer trucks can tell as soon as you chip them and void warranty. But 2009 they are going to have a v6 diesel F150 that makes around 375 hp and 550 lbs of tq :YEAH
i get about 18-20 city and 22-24 hwy with 6 inch lift and 37" tires on 20's
i get about 18-20 city and 22-24 hwy with 6 inch lift and 37" tires on 20's
#22
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Maintenance is key word here....
I've had a diesel since 01' and now have a new 07' 6.0. But one thing to expect is paying MORE for fuel and ALOT more for oil changes and filter changes. And your milage MIGHT go up, if you can keep your foot off the pedal.
An average oil change will jump to $50-100 depending on what type of oil you use (i use delvac1500 $8/gallon)... these engines take 15 QUARTS on a fill up. And the oil filter is $20.
I've had a diesel since 01' and now have a new 07' 6.0. But one thing to expect is paying MORE for fuel and ALOT more for oil changes and filter changes. And your milage MIGHT go up, if you can keep your foot off the pedal.
An average oil change will jump to $50-100 depending on what type of oil you use (i use delvac1500 $8/gallon)... these engines take 15 QUARTS on a fill up. And the oil filter is $20.
#23
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The head gasket thing was only on the early 03' 6 liters.... they changed the head bolts in 05' and the problem went away....
I have a 7.3 as well on my 01' and the 6.0 SMOKES it all day long.... I hate drivin the 7.3 now... it feels like a slug.
I've got an Edge tuner/monitor and on level 3 all the time since about 5k miles... now have almost 40k and my foot is to the floor EVERYWHERE. Never a problem besides buyin new rear tires.
Got factory 20's and literally HAVE to put it in 4wd to keep the rears from spinning off the line. :YEAH
Oh and I get 12mpg city at best.... i dont' know how all you calculate your milage but the factory computer is waaaaay off if that's what you're goin by...
#24
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get a older ford 7.3 not the 6.0 if you go ford. the newer 6.0 have problems blowing head gasket. I have a dp-tuner on the fly for a chip and it is the best thing ever for the fords :YEAH All i do is oil changes and it runs fine. i have changed the fuel filter once and it was 26.00. Mine makes around 450-500 h.p and about 850 lbs tq. plus the newer trucks can tell as soon as you chip them and void warranty. But 2009 they are going to have a v6 diesel F150 that makes around 375 hp and 550 lbs of tq :YEAH
i get about 18-20 city and 22-24 hwy with 6 inch lift and 37" tires on 20's
i get about 18-20 city and 22-24 hwy with 6 inch lift and 37" tires on 20's
#25
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Just curious if anyones diesel truck actually RUNS good and runs ALWAYS without constant maintenence?
I've only experienced 2 diesels on a daily basis (at my job) and BOTH Were peices of ****!
Ford power stroke, and a chevy duramax, WHAT ******* JUNK!
Both were newer (2003+) both needed a fuel filter EVERY MONTH or they would NOT RUN!
MANY days after work we would be sitting there, cranking on the engine FOREVER, and it just woudn't start.. End up getting home late because we gotta change the fuel filter, and use ether to get them started...
I dont get it though, SOON as we replaced the fuel filter, they started up instantly... Yet our bobcat and backhoe, always ran, around hte clock, 8-12 hours a day, and never needed the fuel filter replaced
I've only experienced 2 diesels on a daily basis (at my job) and BOTH Were peices of ****!
Ford power stroke, and a chevy duramax, WHAT ******* JUNK!
Both were newer (2003+) both needed a fuel filter EVERY MONTH or they would NOT RUN!
MANY days after work we would be sitting there, cranking on the engine FOREVER, and it just woudn't start.. End up getting home late because we gotta change the fuel filter, and use ether to get them started...
I dont get it though, SOON as we replaced the fuel filter, they started up instantly... Yet our bobcat and backhoe, always ran, around hte clock, 8-12 hours a day, and never needed the fuel filter replaced
#26
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get a older ford 7.3 not the 6.0 if you go ford. the newer 6.0 have problems blowing head gasket. I have a dp-tuner on the fly for a chip and it is the best thing ever for the fords :YEAH All i do is oil changes and it runs fine. i have changed the fuel filter once and it was 26.00. Mine makes around 450-500 h.p and about 850 lbs tq. plus the newer trucks can tell as soon as you chip them and void warranty. But 2009 they are going to have a v6 diesel F150 that makes around 375 hp and 550 lbs of tq :YEAH
i get about 18-20 city and 22-24 hwy with 6 inch lift and 37" tires on 20's
i get about 18-20 city and 22-24 hwy with 6 inch lift and 37" tires on 20's
#27
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my homeboy built a cummins for his 2001 dodge, had comp cams custom grind a cam for him, had JE make the pistons, the whole nine. that was one of the fastest street vehicles i have ever been in, we used leave mustangs and camaros in black clouds all day.
#28
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hell ya you can get some serious power out of a cummins and if you read up alot of times when ppl are doing pulls or drag racing they will pull the powerstroke out of there ford and drop a cummin in....
#29
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he got a job with CAT right out of high school and they sent him to diesel school, so he had extensive knowledge.
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Re: Deisel vs. Gas
get a older ford 7.3 not the 6.0 if you go ford. the newer 6.0 have problems blowing head gasket. I have a dp-tuner on the fly for a chip and it is the best thing ever for the fords :YEAH All i do is oil changes and it runs fine. i have changed the fuel filter once and it was 26.00. Mine makes around 450-500 h.p and about 850 lbs tq. plus the newer trucks can tell as soon as you chip them and void warranty. But 2009 they are going to have a v6 diesel F150 that makes around 375 hp and 550 lbs of tq :YEAH
i get about 18-20 city and 22-24 hwy with 6 inch lift and 37" tires on 20's
i get about 18-20 city and 22-24 hwy with 6 inch lift and 37" tires on 20's
#31
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i believe ford was giving people with the 6 liter cash back or some kind of reperation because those motors were such ****.
#33
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The 1st generation 6.0's had problems.... just as did the 1st run of 7.3's. It always takes a little time to work the bugs out. As I'm sure there's gonna be problems w/ the new dual sequential turbo 6.4's.
After late 04 the 6 liter has be smooth w/ out many problems.... check out any powerstroke msg board... the bugs are gone. That's why I grabbed an 07' instead of a new 08'.... (although I hear the 08's pull like a muthafucka bone stock).
But i will agree (being a big diesel fan), Cummins makes a REALLY good engine.... it's too bad they only put em in Dodge's.
After late 04 the 6 liter has be smooth w/ out many problems.... check out any powerstroke msg board... the bugs are gone. That's why I grabbed an 07' instead of a new 08'.... (although I hear the 08's pull like a muthafucka bone stock).
But i will agree (being a big diesel fan), Cummins makes a REALLY good engine.... it's too bad they only put em in Dodge's.
#34
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ya like i said all of our work trucks are the 6.0's and there good trucks but if you want to do much heavy pullin you def want a dodge...im talkin big loads not lawnmowers
#35
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dp-tuner
5" exhaust
cold air intake
Suncoast tranny $6,000 alone
6" lift w/ 20 with 35" tires
97,000 miles
#38
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you need to get rid of the Edge tuner/monitor you have and get http://www.dp-tuner.com/:YEAH
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