636 03' oil pressure problem
 

ok.it goes like this.
whenever i crash that bitch to on the right side,the oil pressure light comes up.so i switch it off,get it up,start it over again and it keeps on.....
my record is 3 minutes of oil pressure light being on on the idle (1800rpm)
then i get bored and throttle it up a bit -then it dissapears.
why is that?
when i fall to the left it keeps on working even on the ground with no light coming up.
i have 4,9liiters of oil in the engine.
no mods to the engine so far.
help
dont want to fuck up the engine so fast

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

do the kleen mod...

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

the oil pours in to the clutch cover on the right side and out of the sump so i suggest leaning the bike on to the kick stand for a few seconds and letting the oil flow back to the sump ....but three minutes is a long as time , never seen it happen that long

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

I just wait and lower the revs down while waiting as low as its possible
i use 3000rpm for slow stuff
yeah-thats kinda disturbing
will clean air mod help at all?

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=uneetra;3482974]I just wait and lower the revs down while waiting as low as its possible
i use 3000rpm for slow stuff
yeah-thats kinda disturbing
will clean air mod help at all?[/quote]when i said leaning the bike on to the kick stand i forgot to say with the bike off , that will allow the oil to drain back into the sump in the oil pan quicker because when the bike is running the clutch basket is spinning the oil around so it takes longer for it to get back to the pan .....

the clean air mod wont change any thing in this situation but i still recommend doing it for a host of other reasons .....

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

start it up and crack(slightly loosen) the oil filter until the air pocket leaves. It usually only takes a couple seconds. It seems to be a hit or miss problem with the 636s. Some guys have it even happen after an oil change. Their are tons of threads about it on kawiforums. They call loosening the filter "burping it"

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[quote=Compton82;3482998]start it up and crack(slightly loosen) the oil filter until the air pocket leaves. It usually only takes a couple seconds. It seems to be a hit or miss problem with the 636s. Some guys have it even happen after an oil change. Their are tons of threads about it on kawiforums. They call loosening the filter "burping it"[/quote]thats a different problem , his problem is just that the oil is spilling out of the oil pan and in to the clutch cover from lying on it's side running and when all the oil is in the clutch cover the oil pump runs dry so it take a second for the oil pressure to build back up once the oil flows back in to the pan ...

the problem your talking about can be solved by simply filling the oil filter with oil when you change it

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

hmm, one of the guys I ride with has the oil light come on everytime he crrashes on the right and he has just been loosening his filter and it goes away.

At first he would just start it and wait for it to go away, but it was taking a long time, so we loosened the filter and it got pressure immediately

if you leave it on the stand, how long does it normally take before you can start it and have pressure?

[quote=old man roger;3483013]
the problem your talking about can be solved by simply filling the oil filter with oil when you change it[/quote]
yea I have never had the problem, but I guess thats because I always put oil in the filter. Then again I dont have the problem when I crash to the right either

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

OKAY i will de - burp the filter
but
do I need to do it always after right side crash?
or is it just a one time application that will save my ass
and probably a lot of bucks for later.

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=Compton82;3483052]hmm, one of the guys I ride with has the oil light come on everytime he crrashes on the right and he has just been loosening his filter and it goes away.

At first he would just start it and wait for it to go away, but it was taking a long time, so we loosened the filter and it got pressure immediately

if you leave it on the stand, how long does it normally take before you can start it and have pressure?


yea I have never had the problem, but I guess thats because I always put oil in the filter. Then again I dont have the problem when I crash to the right either[/quote]while he is loosening his filter the oil is going back into the pan , it's not the fact he is loosening the filter it's that the bike is sitting on the kickstand while he is doing it ....:2cents

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=old man roger;3483105]while he is loosening his filter the oil is going back into the pan , it's not the fact he is loosening the filter it's that the bike is sitting on the kickstand while he is doing it ....:2cents[/quote]

I'm not sure if this is the problem OMR . our team mate had this exact problem a few times and it lasted for weeks of no riding thinking something was seriously messed up and he loosened the filter and got a smoky/misty blast of air out of it and bam, and it happened more than once. I think some of the 636's get it and some don't.

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

Compton, dont argue with roger :nono

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=-SKETCHY-;3483143]Compton, dont argue with roger :nono[/quote]:LOL

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[quote=MikeOnTheBike;3483119]I'm not sure if this is the problem OMR . our team mate had this exact problem a few times and it lasted for weeks of no riding thinking something was seriously messed up and he loosened the filter and got a smoky/misty blast of air out of it and bam, and it happened more than once. I think some of the 636's get it and some don't.[/quote]the oil pump is on the left side of the bike behind the water pump and if the bike is lying on the right side the oils drains out of the sump , simple as that

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=old man roger;3483158]the oil pump is on the left side of the bike behind the water pump and if the bike is lying on the right side the oils drains out of the sump , simple as that[/quote]

I see exactly what you are saying. and it makes sense, but these damn 636's in a certain way of crashing or circumstance like on my buddies bike they can get an air lock in the pump and lose their prime and I think the cracking the filter lets the air get out and oil back into the pump so it can make pressure again. :2cents

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=MikeOnTheBike;3483355]I see exactly what you are saying. and it makes sense, but these damn 636's in a certain way of crashing or circumstance like on my buddies bike they can get an air lock in the pump and lose their prime and I think the cracking the filter lets the air get out and oil back into the pump so it can make pressure again. :2cents[/quote]leaning the bike to the left will fill the pump and push out any air with out cracking the oil filter open

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=-SKETCHY-;3483143]Compton, dont argue with roger :nono[/quote]
never, cant argue with a legend

I was just offering my advice based on what Jerry has to do. He used to just let it sit and try to keep starting it, but after running for a couple minutes with the oil light on he started getting scared.

Wasnt trying to sound like a dick:cheers

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=Compton82;3483613]never, cant argue with a legend

I was just offering my advice based on what Jerry has to do. He used to just let it sit and try to keep starting it, but after running for a couple minutes with the oil light on he started getting scared.

Wasnt trying to sound like a dick:cheers[/quote]dick !!!!!!!!!!























i kid i kid , he may have a week oil pump :shruggs

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=old man roger;3483357]leaning the bike to the left will fill the pump and push out any air with out cracking the oil filter open[/quote] I think his sat for almost 3 weeks on the stand tried again, no oil pressure. cracked the filter open started it and air puff and and then oil pressure. I think neither of us are wrong on this one I think they just get a air block that they can't pass sometimes.

Re: 636 03' oil pressure problem
 

[quote=MikeOnTheBike;3483648]I think his sat for almost 3 weeks on the stand tried again, no oil pressure. cracked the filter open started it and air puff and and then oil pressure. I think neither of us are wrong on this one I think they just get a air block that they can't pass sometimes.[/quote]i have taken a 636 oil pump apart and don't see how it couldn't over come any air in the system , i can't really explain it well in a post but if you look at an oil pump from a 636 you would see what im saying