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vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 07:50 PM

zx6r running like shit
 
ok i droped my bike from 12 about a week ago, picked it up nothing wrong with it, After about 10 minutes of riding it sounded like its skipping. so i went home cleaned the carbs, put in new plugs and new fuel and its still doing it. The bike has plenty if power and idles fine but it sounds stupid as fuck. Any help on what this could be???

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 08:12 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
well sir i happen to own that same bike and do alot of work to it, does it sputter all the time? or only when you rev it up? and does it to it while moving? or when its sitting still? or both?

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 08:19 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
kinda always but the idle pulls smooth and it pulls fine all threw out the rpm's. its more anoying than anything

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 08:22 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
when you cleaned the carbs, did you clean the screen on the fuel inlet? and i also had a very similar problem that would run funny pull ok but intermitanly fuck up and it wound up being the pilot screws backed themselve the hell out and fucked my idle alllll up.

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 08:27 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
hang on ill have a vid in a minute

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 08:28 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
aight

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 08:35 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
ok it be a few to load it to youtube but its worst some times more than others:shruggs dont know just have to wait for the vid

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 08:45 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
haha fuckin utube, yea ill whatch it and see if i can help you out bro

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 08:50 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
you can hear it best around 30-35sec in:shruggs

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aywMvrOC9zY[/URL]

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 09:09 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
yup sounds exactly like mine did, pop the carbs off it, and the hose the feeds the fuel to the carbs, the fitting that hose goes on at the carbs has this little fuckin screen inside it you can pull out with pliers and clean, and then with them ALL the way out , if you turn them around so you looking and the side of the carbs facing the motor, you will see a little hole on each carb with a little brass pin should be close to flush with the hole , if ANY are not the same then they moved and you need to put them back to their proper setting which is the fun part, drilling out the plugs lol. hers some pics to help you. BE SURE TO LOCKTIGHT THEN SILICONE THE PLUG HOLES YOU DRILL OUT SO THE PILOT SCREWS DONT MOVE.

[IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/71sqif.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/2ur9xd1.jpg[/IMG]

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 09:16 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
thanks man ill be back in about half hour to update:yeah

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 09:18 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
ok buddy

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 09:42 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
ok tell me again if im looking at the right thing:shruggs
far left
[IMG]http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo130/vegasrider2005/carb001.jpg[/IMG]
middle left
[IMG]http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo130/vegasrider2005/carb002.jpg[/IMG]
middle right
[IMG]http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo130/vegasrider2005/carb003.jpg[/IMG]
far right
[IMG]http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo130/vegasrider2005/carb004.jpg[/IMG]
i hate carbs but im too broke for f/i:banghead

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 09:49 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
is this what i drill out. this brass plug with the whole and how deep do i go:shruggs
[IMG]http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo130/vegasrider2005/carb.jpg[/IMG]

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 09:51 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
damn that looks really dirty in a picture. but its just the bottoms this insides have been cleaned:LOL

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 09:55 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
yea you got it right, drill those little brass plugs out, use a bit just a bit smaller then the plug and go untill its comes out or you got all the way through the plug, once its out you will see the screw and its flat head to adjust, make sure you adjust them all the same, toss it together and see how it runs. did you check that filter?

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 09:57 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
yup it was clean as hell, ill go drill those and get back to you in a bit. btw i really apprieciate all this helps, so thanks a bunch:yeah

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 10:08 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
haha noooo problem i spent ALOT of time trying to figure out wtf was going on with mine, linked it to constantly plugging that screen so i added two inline filters in the fuel line, and found one cyl just like yours where i pilot screw walked itself in and blocked proper fuel flow even tho the pilot is mostly for idle, i could only notice it while reving the bike, not to mention once i fixed it, HUGE gain in idle pull and overall power, dude ive modified mine so heavily you wouldlnt even know thats what it is.

[IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/20j5yev.jpg[/IMG]

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 10:08 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
well i dont have the right tools here so ill have to do it tomorrow :banghead

xxshiftrxx 08-12-2009 10:18 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
aight man well good luck with it ill shoot you a pm

IMR-Merlin 08-12-2009 10:48 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
Did he tell you how this happened? He had this clam parked on the bar and it fell over on the left side. Probably knocked some shit loose in the bowls. I'm guessing that there is shit stuck in the low speed/pilot jet. It was running fine before that point.

Jeff we'll dig into it tomorrow. I have everything you need here at the shop to drill it out if needed.

vegasrider2005 08-12-2009 11:09 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
ha ha asshole i already cleaned everything

IMR-Merlin 08-13-2009 08:56 AM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
Yeah, like you cleaned the outside of the bowl off......:LOL

vegasrider2005 08-13-2009 08:59 AM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
well yeah:LOL, ill show you in a few hours:cheers

!!A2K!! 08-13-2009 11:11 AM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
fuel injection.....woop woop!

IMR-Merlin 08-13-2009 12:46 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
He's too broke to have a real bike. :broke Maybe next year.....

IMR-Merlin 08-13-2009 10:40 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
Still running like shit, did the pilot jets, found some crap in the main jet of the #1 carb, ran fine for a few till it warmed up and it had a habit of flooding.....

Wonder if he screwed up the float level when it fell ff the 12 bar.

vegasrider2005 08-13-2009 11:15 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
ill rip into it tomorrow and see what i find:yeah

IMR-Merlin 08-14-2009 04:13 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
Check the float level and if you want to come down early next week, I'll rig up a mercury switch and relay for your fuel pump.

vegasrider2005 08-14-2009 05:31 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
ill let you know :banghead

vegasrider2005 08-14-2009 07:50 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
ok on the intake side the is a small air jet that spitting fuel????? :banghead can figure it out

xxshiftrxx 08-14-2009 08:01 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
you have to be more specific, pics?

vegasrider2005 08-14-2009 08:25 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
ha ha, hoping you'ld get on. Hang on a sec

vegasrider2005 08-14-2009 08:31 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
the one circled in red
[IMG]http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo130/vegasrider2005/carb6666.jpg[/IMG]

cjoec01 08-14-2009 09:09 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
take the bowl off remove the float make sure the neddle is properly set(hooked around the float arm, it's a tiny wire loop) reassamble. i knock mine off/out of place shakin it, and it would squirt gas out the top.

vegasrider2005 08-14-2009 09:10 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
checked that ten time its all good:banghead i think i need to get insurence then burn it to the ground

vegasrider2005 08-14-2009 09:20 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
maybe you will see something i dont:shruggs
[IMG]http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo130/vegasrider2005/carb66667.jpg[/IMG]

coolguyintree 08-14-2009 10:34 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
that main jet looks mangled up to me. it should be fine since its 4 stroke but i know on my two stroke a jet was messed up like that once and reall fd it up and wouldnt run smooth at all. my 2cts on that last picture from just looking. good luck

vegasrider2005 08-14-2009 10:52 PM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
i did that after the fact but went threw and cleaned everything for the 4th time and set the float hights seems to be running right but i cant let it run for to long cuz its almost 11 at night:banghead

IMR-Merlin 08-15-2009 01:38 AM

Re: zx6r running like shit
 
Ok, did you set the float level like I did with the #1 cylinder at the shop? I think when you dropped the thing, you might have bent the metal tab that controls the float level. If the tab is bent, no matter how well the needle sets. It's of no use if it's not being allowed to fully close due to improper adjustment.


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