98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Hey guys, i've been reading alot of posts and reply's and hear what u guys r saying and i have memorised the thread at the top of the page but still having a lot of trouble learning to wheelie. Now i can power it up a little in first to around 1-2 feet in the air and ride it out for a while, not quite rev limiter but im sure it will come in practice though hey? The thing that scares the **** out of me is that im going so bloody quick b4 the front lifts and everything is happening so quick!!! Dont get me wrong though when i do bounce it a little i feel it come up a lot higher than normal and the bike seems to not go as fast or rev as high, why is that? I really want 2 learn how 2 clutch them up so im not going as fast but i just dont think i have the tecnique quite right yet. I cruise in 1st doing about 50kms and then at around 8 or so i pull in the clutch get on the gas and then let the clutch go but to no avail most of the time. Should i just concerntrate on trying to bounce them up for now or work on technique for clutch ups? Should i be trying to do all this sitting or standing? grandmasterB in Aus
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Keep it simple...that's how I learned...I don't clutch up any wheelies it's just more for me to think about... an let's face it I'm a chick, we get confused easily he he

Try sitting to the back of your seat...covering your rear brake...stay in first and thottle to the power band(the point where you can really feel your bike pulling you back)let off the throttle for a quick second at that point and goose it, all the time trying to remember to lean back and keep your arms extended...It will come up if you do all these things...

That was how I learned and it came pretty easily after I kept all those things in mind
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Yeah i know that much and hitting the throttle 2 get em up isn't really a prob, like i said its just a little 2 quick 4 my liking thats wy i want 2 learn how to clutch but if im doing wrong i would rather learn the right way so i dont do damage 2 me or my ride!!!
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

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Yeah i know that much and hitting the throttle 2 get em up isn't really a prob, like i said its just a little 2 quick 4 my liking thats wy i want 2 learn how to clutch but if im doing wrong i would rather learn the right way so i dont do damage 2 me or my ride!!!

I think it is very strange that you think clutching it up will make it come up slower...powering it up to me seems a little safer...but that's just my humble oppinion
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

The clutch method is way better for me, i rode around tryin to wheelie my gix six for 6 months before i learned how to clutch it. Its all about practice and timing, find a spot to practice and just keep tryin until you get it. You have to get on the gas and fan the clutch at the right time, and remember to wear your gear and COVER THE REAR BRAKE!!!
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

To me, it feels more predictable to clutch it up, cause i can be rollin like 10 mph, smack the clutch and its right up close to the BP, then all i do is use the throttle to keep it there...
Old Jul 13, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Yeah i'll keep trying and im sure that it will happen, probably when i least expect it to. i feel that clutching it up is safer as im not travelling as fast and there 4 easier to control while learning, thats my opionin ne how. I'll give it a go and get back to u, thanks for the help.
Old Jul 14, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Give it some time you need to learn the sheit out of that bike. I stunt the hell out of a 99 gixer 600 with a 97 motor in it. These bikes are real pigs with very little low end grunt. Learn the clutch and soon you will be rockin some nice wheelies and later some killer combos. Make sure your not just letting the whole clutch fly, all you need is a little pull on the lever. To give you an idea of how much lever to pull hold onto the bar with three fingers and your thumb and with your pointer finger pull the lever in till it meets the other three fingers. this should be all you need. Check out my 600 at www.theuprightsstuntteam.com Later....jk
Old Jul 14, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Power up wheelies are more scary. When you power a wheelie up you have to give it alot of gas to get it up the first few feet, but once the weight starts to come back it will jump up really REALLy fast so you have to be sure your getting off the gas as it comes up. Plus by the time it is up your going pretty fast. Clutching it up is the best method on my opinion, just start clutching it at lower rpms and as you get used to it popping up start clutchin at higher rpms. I had trouble learning to clutch it up at first. I was pulling the clutch in to far and it would just jump forward most of the time instead of coming up. I found out what you have to do, "pull the clutch in until you can just start to feel it slip and the rpms start to climb, you want the clutch to still be engaged just partly, then slip it back out quickly but don't just drop it, just a quick smooth engagement." You'll get it, took me awhile but one day it just clicked!
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

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Power up wheelies are more scary. When you power a wheelie up you have to give it alot of gas to get it up the first few feet, but once the weight starts to come back it will jump up really REALLy fast so you have to be sure your getting off the gas as it comes up. Plus by the time it is up your going pretty fast. Clutching it up is the best method on my opinion, just start clutching it at lower rpms and as you get used to it popping up start clutchin at higher rpms. I had trouble learning to clutch it up at first. I was pulling the clutch in to far and it would just jump forward most of the time instead of coming up. I found out what you have to do, "pull the clutch in until you can just start to feel it slip and the rpms start to climb, you want the clutch to still be engaged just partly, then slip it back out quickly but don't just drop it, just a quick smooth engagement." You'll get it, took me awhile but one day it just clicked!
now that bit of info helps me. im doing the same thing right now. i think im letting the clutch out way to quick and im just gettin a big jolt forward,,know what i mean? so you just barely pull the clutch in to where its almost partially engaged still...im gonna try that. thank alot
Old Jul 14, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Roll on the throttle and slip the clutch quick. Keep doing it and give it more and more gas as you get used to it. I 3/4 throttle most the time at lower speeds and 1/2 at 30-40.
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 06:27 AM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Well i hear what u r all saying and i've been trying to put it in2 practice, but im still having trouble with it. I can power em up no prob and ride em out but when ever i try and clutch them up one of two things normally happen. 1. I just light up the rear wheel and end up doing a big power burnout up the road, or 2. the front lifts a little, the rear wheel spins and then i get off the gas to prevent anything else going wrong. I have a brand new Pilot Power rear tire and its been run in an absolute treat and on the track or the road i can't fault it, but as soon as i get a bit of that clutch the **** breaks loose. Should i just say what the hell and give it a wrist full and hope for the best while the wheel is spinning or am i just waisting my time and money? I really dont know what else i can do?
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Don't give it as much gas is one thought, also try to slip the clutch smoother, a sudden jolt tends to break the back loose. Another thing to try is letting a few psi out of the tire, but make sure you put some air back in before you go on the highway and stuff. I have a POS metzler and I used to break it loose everytime just like you until I learned to pull the clutch in JUST so it slips and then be smooth when you let it out. My tire still squeals abit before it grabs and brings me up....
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

You might wanna sit back on the seat too.
Old Jul 20, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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Re: 98 gixxer 600, struggling to wheelie

Im still struggling to find that happy medium for a completey smooth clutch up, but im finally getting them now and riding em out pretty well. I had my bike retuned and its going 10 times better now, i find that i can bounce the sucker up in 2nd no prob and im not moving that fast. It has also help me with clutching it up as i dont have 2 go so far up in the rev range anymore before i start to see some results. I have been doing stand ups as i find them a lot easier than sits downs but the problem i having now is that once im up and i ride it out in 2nd i dont really know how 2 shift up 2 third and keep going? Do i clutch, power shift or bump it up? Ben
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