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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

Ahhh Whatever...

It's a lot easyer for me to jump on a geared bike the a stock bike.

It's easyer to overcome the motor with brake on a stock bike...

With any given throttel position change the rear tire rotates less with a geared bike... With that being a fact how could you agure the point???
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

Originally Posted by Schwartz
This twitchy with more gearing keeps comeing up and makes ZERO sence...

With a bike geared the rear tire will rotate less with any given RPM change...

So this more twitchy thing sould be re-thought...

A geared bike makes Everything easyer...
when u go down in the front the bike gets twitchy but if u go up in the back alot it = out
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

Originally Posted by Histamineblkr
What do you expect you can't even pull the clutch in with one finger. Dave you need to get back on your Honda Elite, and just give this whole stunting thing up, maybe Ice Skating.....

Or after your 6monther you could attend my 8 hour, Index Clutch Pull, Seminar.

Dave your wheelies is Gahbage!

its all good cuz i got a gripmaster now and i'll be able to crush an armadillo !
u must bee talkin about the rattrap, 5 second highchair chaser, 3 mph stoppie seminar !

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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

Originally Posted by Danger_Dave

its all good cuz i got a gripmaster now and i'll be able to crush an armadillo !
u must bee talkin about the rattrap, 5 second highchair chaser, 3 mph stoppie seminar !

baaaahahahahahahah

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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

-1/+10 = perfect for the 954

Yes, it is more twitchy but will make you smoother. I use first in the lot, second on the street, and fourth on the freeway. It's a good overall gearing.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

Originally Posted by Wheeliest
you Wouldn't have any twitchyness issues if u just turn ur idle up and clutch it to BP from a dead stop and used all back brake.
Oh... great idea, I need to try that

Idle is idle... it is impossible to have a twitchy or choppy throttle on idle.

If you get good on a stock geared bike, then gear it up decently... hop on and clutch up a wheelie w/ no brake (spreader, seat stander, ect)... you will be EXTREMELY choppy.... untill you learn how to use engine brake. FACT.
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

"With any given throttel position change the rear tire rotates less with a geared bike."

yes, but if you move the throttle 2mm, it doesn't equal to 1000rpm more. throttle is not 'connected' to the rear wheel. It needs to accelerate up to the new throttle setting. this needs torque, with stock gearing the engine has harder time to speed up the rear wheel. With geared bike it's really easy to the engine, and the throttle position effects the rear wheel speed faster.

954 is twisty when it's geared. stock or -1 front is good starting point. you can roll it pretty slow like that. And 954 doesn't stall that easy, so after you get it down to idle, then gear it more.

600 is better, less torque and power.
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

[QUOTE=Jaket

It needs to accelerate up to the new throttle setting. this needs torque,
[/QUOTE]

Wrong!

You can have 1000's of foot pounds of torque and not have the ability to maintain even 1 RPM.

It's Horse Power which is the ability to apply torque at a RPM. With out RPM there is no horse power. Without torque at a given RPM there is no horse power.

I am just being an A$$ but your statment is still not true. Sorry
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

Originally Posted by LSR_Rick
I think what he means is jerky instead of twitchy....I know that stock gearing is much smoother than geared bikes because the torque isnt there.
the man said it all...the torque is what makes geared bike more "twitchy", or to say it better more reactive to throttle.

but I have to agree with schwartz's theory - the fact is that you get less wheelspin for same throttle apply on geared bike vs. stock...which brings it back to torque...simple as that...
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Re: Liter bike that has been geared.....question

the more gearing you got the harder it is to keep it smooth, that's where the practice comes into play. The smoother you get, the better throttle control you got, i rode the past summer on +17 on my 954 going down to + 13 now we'll see how it goes.
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