i want to start learning these two tricks, specifically, and am looking for some help... how did you learn how to do these (or any variations, like reverse tank stands, handstands etc)? is a steering damper a must? what about higher idle? any advice appreciated..

 

yes get a damper :YEAH

 

Yeah, get a damper, and practice practice practice...it's easy to practice while someone holds your bike up and you hop around on it while it's standin' still...it's also a lot safer then trying it while the bikes actually movin'....

 

thats what i was goin to say... seems like you could learn best if some one holds it up. another thing you might need is a straight away i like watchin people do switchbacks into stuff

 

and when you find a road to try it on IN MOTION, cuise that road a couple of times and MAKE SURE you make a mental note of any channels or hard bumps and holes in it. You onviously wont be the master on your first try, but you dont wanna play superman because of a chuck-hole you didnt know about!

 

oh yeah i almost forgot. the more speed the easier to balance.and im not talking about anything over 60 too much turbulence to me.but im sure others will chime in about that