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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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I can get 12's and ride a balance point but the bike only will ride them like 50 ft. not even. It's like it doest get enough fuel. Does the carb cause this.... ? i'm staying on the gas and i clutch it in 1st. It's a 96 rf600r.
Old Jun 20, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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I do believe it's cause of being carbed, at 12 or so the fuel doesn't make to the cylinders. My 99 will bog and stall at or around 12 or scraping or when ever it's straight up and down for any bit of time.
Old Jun 20, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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yea theres some kind of modification u have to do to carbed bikes.. otherwise it gets flooded and stalls out or somethin like that cant remember what it is though.. do a search
Old Jun 20, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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ok thanks just making sure it's not my f*** up. i'll look for the mod. Anyone know where to start.

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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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ok thanks just making sure it's not my f*** up. i'll look for the mod. Anyone know where to start.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Its common, your bike is suffering from oil loss. When bikes get above the 10 position, the oil falls to the back of the pan and the bike doesnt enuff and bogs down. The easy way to fix is jus and an extra quart of oil. Adding a quart extra wont damage your bike, especially if your gonna do alotta standups. It actually helps reduce gear/ clutch/ and engine wear from all the friction. So get some oil and get ridin.

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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Great stuff. Preciate that
Old Jul 19, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Re: wheelie problem...

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Its common, your bike is suffering from oil loss. When bikes get above the 10 position, the oil falls to the back of the pan and the bike doesnt enuff and bogs down. The easy way to fix is jus and an extra quart of oil. Adding a quart extra wont damage your bike, especially if your gonna do alotta standups. It actually helps reduce gear/ clutch/ and engine wear from all the friction. So get some oil and get ridin.

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Did you just pull that all out of your ***?


If you are on a carbed bike, and it cuts out at balance point, its the carbs... Why the **** would you think it has anything to do with oil?

Hell if your bike is cutting out because its low on oil, then your engine is FUCKED anyways.
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^x2...if its cuz of "oil", its cuz your ***** about to lock up...

my 02 R6 would do the same thing once it got past bp for a few seconds, caused a bad mouse trap for me once...
Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Re: wheelie problem...

Originally Posted by Towlieee
Did you just pull that all out of your ***?


If you are on a carbed bike, and it cuts out at balance point, its the carbs... Why the **** would you think it has anything to do with oil?

Hell if your bike is cutting out because its low on oil, then your engine is FUCKED anyways.
LOL, obviously you never read anything about engines. Even in a compressed engine, the fluid still moves. If you tilt it, the fuel and oil will move. Thus, when the engine gets to a certain point it creates issues. Most bikes have a "tip sensor" thats mounted inline with the oil system. A safety in case the bike is running and falls, the cpu shuts it off. And when your stuntin, the sensor can kick in. The sensor shuts the valves to keep them from flooding or causing possible damage/leaks. This results in loss of fuel and oil. Fuel injected bikes skip the whole loss of fuel issue, but some still have oil issues. By adding more oil it helps delay the sensor being set off, since its the oil balance level that activates it. SO b4 you try to down somebody, Read a ****** book. If you can.
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Re: wheelie problem...

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LOL, obviously you never read anything about engines. Even in a compressed engine, the fluid still moves. If you tilt it, the fuel and oil will move. Thus, when the engine gets to a certain point it creates issues. Most bikes have a "tip sensor" thats mounted inline with the oil system. A safety in case the bike is running and falls, the cpu shuts it off. And when your stuntin, the sensor can kick in. The sensor shuts the valves to keep them from flooding or causing possible damage/leaks. This results in loss of fuel and oil. Fuel injected bikes skip the whole loss of fuel issue, but some still have oil issues. By adding more oil it helps delay the sensor being set off, since its the oil balance level that activates it. SO b4 you try to down somebody, Read a ****** book. If you can.
Um, I've NEVER heard of a motorcycle that has the tip sensor in any way shape or form connected to the oil system.
The tip sensor is its own unit, it isn't there to stop the bike running so it doesn't blow, its to kill the fuel pump and stop fuel from blowing out, causing a small fire to get big.

The tip sensor doesn't 'shut any valves' It cuts power to the fuel system. And I believe it also cuts power to the spark, but thats not soo important.

Thats how honda sport bikes, kawasaki, suzuki, and yamaha work. So what bikes are you talking about?

So before YOU try to talk someone down, at least figure out what the hell you are talking about. This isn't a car, this isn't a lawn mower, this isn't a 5hp brigs and stratton tiller motor. This is a sport bike. I don't need to read a ******* book on it, I work on this **** daily.

They will run with NO oil in them.


bike cutting out at 12 have nothing to do with oil.. It could POSSIBLY be a tip sensor on a fuel injected bike, but he is riding a carbed bike, which does NOT have a tip sensor. Therefore it is 100% for sure a carb issue. Which is from them flooding out because at 12 the floats are wide open, and fuel just runs into the carb.

If it was a oil problem, it would be from not enough oil lubing everything, and if you are losing power from not enough oil, then your engine is ALREADY FUCKED.

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Re: wheelie problem...

u need what they call carb risers a and all it is are diffrent intake tubes that change the angle of the carbs which allow them to still allow fuel into the bowl without the float closing the needle to the seat so look up carb risers for ur bike
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Re: wheelie problem...

Originally Posted by DJDRAMA
LOL, obviously you never read anything about engines. Even in a compressed engine, the fluid still moves. If you tilt it, the fuel and oil will move. Thus, when the engine gets to a certain point it creates issues. Most bikes have a "tip sensor" thats mounted inline with the oil system. A safety in case the bike is running and falls, the cpu shuts it off. And when your stuntin, the sensor can kick in. The sensor shuts the valves to keep them from flooding or causing possible damage/leaks. This results in loss of fuel and oil. Fuel injected bikes skip the whole loss of fuel issue, but some still have oil issues. By adding more oil it helps delay the sensor being set off, since its the oil balance level that activates it. SO b4 you try to down somebody, Read a ****** book. If you can.

This and your other post above are the most inaccurate and things Ive ever heard. Your tip over sensor explanation was brutally wrong, it has nothing to do with oil and there isnt one on a crbed bike. It would be best not to give people wrong info (you can continue to tell this BS to your friends who know nothing and will believe your crap)
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Re: wheelie problem...

Originally Posted by Standupnfall
This and your other post above are the most inaccurate and things Ive ever heard. Your tip over sensor explanation was brutally wrong, it has nothing to do with oil and there isnt one on a crbed bike. It would be best not to give people wrong info (you can continue to tell this BS to your friends who know nothing and will believe your crap)

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Re: wheelie problem...

Originally Posted by MurderdR6
^x2...if its cuz of "oil", its cuz your ***** about to lock up...

my 02 R6 would do the same thing once it got past bp for a few seconds, caused a bad mouse trap for me once...

ain't had a problem YET, i've hit the 12 and had to run and jump back on and never stalled, but was caused it? i don't wanna mouse trap myself but i did have the weirdeist thing happen last night(besides the no endorsment ticket at the spot,lol) i was at a dead stop went to bring it up, it started coming up, rolled off the gas alittle and it stalled, and then it wouldn't start back up right away, it flooded itself out, and i was no where near balance yet, wtf?

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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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Re: wheelie problem...

Yeah you just have to change the angle of your carbs, I hate carbed bikes too much hassle

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