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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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Progression of wheelies...

Alright, so couple quick questions here guys..

Just started riding this year, for about 4 months.
I started off with simple power wheelies just to get a feel for the front wheel coming off the ground. I would go to about 7 grand, chop off the throttle then snap it back on. Wheel comes up and I could only carry it for a little while until I reached near redline.
Got comfotable with that for a bit and tried clutching it up. I got semi-comfortable with clutch up wheelies and I can carry them for much longer then my power wheelies, however, I am still not hiting BP yet.
BTW, this is all in first gear.
I have tried clutching it up in second gear, but it doesn't even seem to come off the ground at all. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong.
Also, in your guys mind is it better to carry second gear wheelies for a while, or try and learn BP in first gear?
My bike is a 95 CBR600 F3. The clutch doesn't feel as though its slipping.
Do you have to pretty much redline it and then dump the clutch to bring it up in second? What speed (in kph) should I be going? Also, I haven't deflated my rear tire in PSI, will that help a lot?

Thanks in advance guys.
I am looking into buying a used stunt bike next riding season and practicing in some private or really deserted roads hopefully get to some better stunts.
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Re: Progression of wheelies...

ive ridden an f3 a few times and with stock gearing, theyre not so easy to get up sitting down in 2nd gear, if you dont have a real solid clutch technique, its not gonna come easy. try doing 2nd gear staggerd (left foot on passnger peg and right foot on front peg covering rear brake). balance point will only come in time and work, its alot further up there then you think and as long as u have brake control u dont gotta worry about flipping over. trying learning on a dirtbike for using the back brake. u can let out some pressure but dont go overboard cuz ur just street riding run like 25 to 28lbs. keep at it.
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Re: Progression of wheelies...

yea def try doing it staggard... you have to get the timing right. My clutch is pretty loose and im riding stock gears right now, so to get it up in second I have to preload the suspension hard and slip the clutch as it comes up. Once you get the hang of stand-ups they are much easier than sit-downs in my opinion. They will feel awkward at first but as soon as you get the feel it will all come natural.
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Re: Progression of wheelies...

Alright I'll give that a try guys.
How fast should I be going in 2nd gear to clutch it up?
I used to preload front suspension while learning to power wheelie in first, but since I clutch up now its not a problem.
40kph or around 50kph to clutch up in 2nd sound about right?
Also, for slower wheelies in 1st gear is it easier to get it up at a slower speed when the tire is at around 18psi? Sometimes when I clutch up at abotu 20kph it will just do a rolling burnout :P
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Re: Progression of wheelies...

Originally Posted by Sinecure
Alright I'll give that a try guys.
How fast should I be going in 2nd gear to clutch it up?
I used to preload front suspension while learning to power wheelie in first, but since I clutch up now its not a problem.
40kph or around 50kph to clutch up in 2nd sound about right?
Also, for slower wheelies in 1st gear is it easier to get it up at a slower speed when the tire is at around 18psi? Sometimes when I clutch up at abotu 20kph it will just do a rolling burnout :P
40-50 kph is good for second. In first clutch it up from a stop, or almost stopped.
Old Oct 27, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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Re: Progression of wheelies...

Originally Posted by Sinecure
Alright I'll give that a try guys.
How fast should I be going in 2nd gear to clutch it up?
I used to preload front suspension while learning to power wheelie in first, but since I clutch up now its not a problem.
40kph or around 50kph to clutch up in 2nd sound about right?
Also, for slower wheelies in 1st gear is it easier to get it up at a slower speed when the tire is at around 18psi? Sometimes when I clutch up at abotu 20kph it will just do a rolling burnout :P
for now about 15-20 psi is good. As you go on, you may want to lower it a bit when your slowing them down. Eventually you will want to raise it again when you start doing turns/circles.

Im not a big fan of 2nd gear wheelies, but to learn about 40mph was the best for me. For first gear, about 10-15mph is good when your first learning, but as your get the hang of it the slower the better. With stock gearing, always clutch it up. Power wheelies are bad unless you have a pizza sprocket and know exactly what your doing. I learned all this with stock gearing doing stagger wheelies, like i said once you get the hang of them you will find them much easier. The guy who taught me learned doing seat standers with no handbrake, but he was just crazy like that. I wouldnt reccomend that. Stick to stagger and cover the rear brake.
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Re: Progression of wheelies...

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for now about 15-20 psi is good. As you go on, you may want to lower it a bit when your slowing them down. Eventually you will want to raise it again when you start doing turns/circles.

Im not a big fan of 2nd gear wheelies, but to learn about 40mph was the best for me. For first gear, about 10-15mph is good when your first learning, but as your get the hang of it the slower the better. With stock gearing, always clutch it up. Power wheelies are bad unless you have a pizza sprocket and know exactly what your doing. I learned all this with stock gearing doing stagger wheelies, like i said once you get the hang of them you will find them much easier. The guy who taught me learned doing seat standers with no handbrake, but he was just crazy like that. I wouldnt reccomend that. Stick to stagger and cover the rear brake.
yah I don't generally do power wheelies at all anymore while practicing. I just did it when I first started as the wheel comes up much slower and I was just getting used to the feeling of the front wheel coming off the ground
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Re: Progression of wheelies...

Ok so one more quick question here just to clarify.
When I have the wheel up I'm somewhat choppy on the throttle. I don't know if its just me being paranoid about looping the bike, but when most guy are doing wheelies they seem pretty smooth from videos. Whats the trick with keeping smooth throttle on the wheelies? Just practice?
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Re: Progression of wheelies...

Originally Posted by Sinecure
Ok so one more quick question here just to clarify.
When I have the wheel up I'm somewhat choppy on the throttle. I don't know if its just me being paranoid about looping the bike, but when most guy are doing wheelies they seem pretty smooth from videos. Whats the trick with keeping smooth throttle on the wheelies? Just practice?

practice. it will all come with time, just practice. Watching other guys or riding with someone who knows what there doing helps, but its not a must. I preferred to learn on my own for the most part, so that next time i road with a group i was showin other guys up
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