So I've been workin on stoppies now for about a week and I can constantly roll 150ft with a few in the 175ft area. I'm on a F4i w/ steal braded lines, 300ft run up which gets me to about 65-70mph. I'm pretty confident with my suspension setup. Can anyone give me a few tips?

 

you should be able to roll 150ft from like 45mph try getting up a little higher.

 

the vids that i see and from what i have seen in person u gotta get it to bp real fast.. like from a few articals i've read on SL that wind resistance is a factor in it to, the balance point is alittle higher arround 65mph then it is at 30mph. work on rolling em far from like 40mph with a fast initial bring-up.

 

the balance point for stoppies is almost the same whether you're going fast or slow. The only way that it would be higher for faster speed endos is if there is more wind resistance ubove the center of mass than below.
Similarly, the balance point for coasters is about the same whether you're going fast or slow.

 

oh, if you want to add distance to your endos you either have to come in faster, or bring the *** end up higher.

 

I would say I'm a lil worried if I bring it up too high and fliping it.

 

i think you should reread your statment there. i might not have a PHD in anything but your statment has a flaw in it. the pivot point the tire on the ground not the middle of your body. wind resistance is greater at speed making the balance point higher the faster you go on stoppies because the wind wants to push you back down . the reverse goes for wheelies thats why the slower you go the higher you have to be less wind holding you up.

 

ure not happy with 175 feet??

 

Legion ownz all your base. no but really, where can i buy some shirts guys

 

pm smack on sl she has all of our stuff on lock down lol

 

will u wear it for a day before u ship?

 

only if your girl gives me a hand job first

 

which one

no but really ima get some shirts.

 

Not that I'm not happy but I wanna push 300ft and I'll be happy. Then I wanna learn 180 stoppies.

 

i said i would be happy with 100' before i started haahahha you'll never be happy dont fool yourself you will always think i can go more

 

going 65-75mph should get you more than 150ft. You should be rolling close to 250-300ft without being at balance point at those speeds. You need to bring it up higher. Try going slower and work for the distance. Once you get used to rolling higher, then try going faster and kill those 300ft stoppies.

 

There's no flaw in my statement. Increased wind resistance above the center of mass will raise the balance point. However, increased wind resistance below the center of mass will lower the balance point. Now imagine that you tied a parachute to the 12 bar. That would obviously raise that balance point. Now imagine that it was tied to the front axle. That reisistance would be pulling the front wheel back, trying to flip the bike over. Therefore the balance point would be much lower. So once again, if the wind resistance is the same above the center of mass as below, speed will not effect the balance point. And BP for stoppies can not be compared to wheelies which maintain speed, because the the motor is under load just to maintain speed. Now coasters are similar to endos, and BP for coasters is about the same regardless of speed (because the same rules apply).

 

. Now imagine that it was tied to the front axle. That reisistance would be pulling the front wheel back, trying to flip the bike over.



wrong the pivot point is the area where the tire touches the pavment sorry your still wrong lol try not to think of it as pull the bike back but think of the wind as pushing the bike because that is what is happening. this is where your are having a problem understanding this. if you push on the front tire you will slow the bike down. to keep the bike from slowing you have to be higher. i know you cant see this in action from someone doing stoppies thats because no one wants to go to true BP at 100mph. i guess the only way to prove it would be for you to stand behind a bike in a wind tunel and try to hold it at bp(no weight falling back on you) and turn up the speed. ok im done no need to get this is stupid

 

now coasters are similar to endos, and BP for coasters is about the same regardless of speed (because the same rules apply).


negtive also wind is wind reguardless of coster or wheelie. balance is balance whatever the forces are that makes it balance. 20% wind 60% weight distribution of bike (how high the wheele is) 20% power take one force away like the wind and it will change. you always have to add up to 100%