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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Balancing Point is WHERE???

ok here is the deal, I can do roll on wheelies in first and run them till the rpms go, and i can do clutch ups in second and roll them till the rpms go away also, I've just tried to start finding or even trying to get it close to the bp but i think I am going past it, i had my boy watch me and he showed me that i was about 11 oclock how can you tell when your there, and is the bp harder or smaller on a heavier bike, I bought a 93 vfr 750 to turn into a trick bike is this to heavy??? Please help, I read all the other post and none seem to help me know where I am at, I prolly need to find a stunter close and ride with him for a while huh
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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from what I ve heard it is different for every bike and it is a feeling of weightlessness no brake input ,no throttle in put is needed to keep it up I havent got there but I hope too. Some sya the bike feels like its soming back on you
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Re: Balancing Point is WHERE???

step 1 buy new bike
step 2 find someone that knows BP

the bike is possable it is just going to beharder to learn on. past bp is where you can slow the whoolie down with the brake. you are going to have to go past it first and slow the bike down before you are going to know where it is at
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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Go in your living room...stand on a rug, have a big burly man grab the rug and pull it out from under you. The feeling of being absolutely free and floating is what it feels like....and then the feeling of you hitting your back flat on the ground is what it feels like to loop it....then have the big burly man fall on you and that is what it feels like when the big comes backwards on you.

Out of all of this....take baby steps, please please learn them slow, and consicously check your rear brake before you do a wheelie, and do this everytime. It will get you in the habit of knowing that it will only save you, and when you do "actually go past the BP" you will use it to bring it back down.


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Go in your living room...stand on a rug, have a big burly man grab the rug and pull it out from under you. The feeling of being absolutely free and floating is what it feels like....and then the feeling of you hitting your back flat on the ground is what it feels like to loop it....then have the big burly man fall on you and that is what it feels like when the big comes backwards on you.

Out of all of this....take baby steps, please please learn them slow, and consicously check your rear brake before you do a wheelie, and do this everytime. It will get you in the habit of knowing that it will only save you, and when you do "actually go past the BP" you will use it to bring it back down.


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thanks i would try that but i have tile floors and its going to hurt more
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then you'll never learn
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Thanks, now all I have to do is find the Big Burly and have it stop raining, That was some great advice guys I appreciate it. I'll keep trying safely and see how it goes, i don't think it will take long though, I have been riden bikes for about 3 mon, the 750 for about a month learnd the roll on wheelie in a morning of playing around, and the clutch in an after noon and beeing able to ride them out after the second bring up, hopefully i get good enough to buy a new bike since i have a feeling this one will be trashed
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Do you have any pics of your wheelies to post up? Balance point is where you don't need to increase your speed or use the brake to keep the wheelie going. if your riding each gear out then your most likely below the balance point and need to go higher. It will probably feel akward at first but take it slow and you'll get it, just keep practicing
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hees a pic of my bike balanced
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Re: Balancing Point is WHERE???

Originally Posted by 2NutzCrew
Go in your living room...stand on a rug, have a big burly man grab the rug and pull it out from under you. The feeling of being absolutely free and floating is what it feels like....and then the feeling of you hitting your back flat on the ground is what it feels like to loop it....then have the big burly man fall on you and that is what it feels like when the big comes backwards on you.

Out of all of this....take baby steps, please please learn them slow, and consicously check your rear brake before you do a wheelie, and do this everytime. It will get you in the habit of knowing that it will only save you, and when you do "actually go past the BP" you will use it to bring it back down.


Hope this brings laughter, and knowledge to everyone that doesn't already know!

ok, so if its a fiddy... then replace the big burly man with maybe my 70lb boxer???
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i bought mine at walmart...i also suggest u grab a powerband i got the blue one and im pretty happy with it
Old Apr 3, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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I just ended up buying a whole bag of tricks... It was on sale! :YEAH
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Thats some funny and good stuff, instead of a 70#er what about a .70 ouncer...lol Thanks for the advice I am heading out tom. after work with a friend and a video cam. so I should have something to post up afterwordss :YEAH
Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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Re: Balancing Point is WHERE???

its been a few months...I hope nobody actually did the big burly man thing! It was a joke people! a joke!
Old Jul 7, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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thats why theres been no responces......everyone got busted up from big burly man.
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Re: Balancing Point is WHERE???

Originally Posted by Z-UNIT
i bought mine at walmart...i also suggest u grab a powerband i got the blue one and im pretty happy with it
The Blue one is GARBAAAAGE! I got the Green one and it's a way more flexible powerband.
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Re: Balancing Point is WHERE???

man someone said to get a gold one.......to stiff
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Re: Balancing Point is WHERE???

Originally Posted by suicidl
thanks i would try that but i have tile floors and its going to hurt more
so you're not denying wanting to have a big burly man on top of you
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Originally Posted by Dr.Spot
man someone said to get a gold one.......to stiff
Yeah, it slipps on the pullys. I like the yellow. Good low end torque which is what you really want for stunting. Plus it is more pliable so it doesn't slip at all. Gold are really only good for race bikes.
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good advice, thanks niner. ya i heard that from alot of stunt riders, that yellow is the jam. it was the only thing they were talkin about at stuntfest.



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