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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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whats a long range rifle with very good accuracy?... thinking about picking one up here in a 308..... anyone got any suggestions?
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Cant go wrong with a Remington 700 or a Savage 10FP. I'm going with a Savage 10FP, HS Precision stock, Harris bipod, glass is undecided. I think I priced that rifle that I mentioned at $1200.
Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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I recently bought a 1938 98K. WWII gun, cheap gun, cheap bullets, but accurate as hell. Very loud too.
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06
I recently bought a 1938 98K. WWII gun, cheap gun, cheap bullets, but accurate as hell. Very loud too.
I highly doubt about it, but take a look at the breech.

If you see "Kriegsmodell" stamped on it, it's the real thing.
those boomers have been used in actual WWII environment.
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Re: rifles

Originally Posted by Lazarus
Cant go wrong with a Remington 700 or a Savage 10FP. I'm going with a Savage 10FP, HS Precision stock, Harris bipod, glass is undecided. I think I priced that rifle that I mentioned at $1200.
+1 check out the savage it's cheaper and with the accu trigger is nice

but you can pick up a modded 26" hb 700 cheap too...either way you can't go wrong
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Armalite AR-10 is sweet, but pricey

Bushmaster has an AR style .308

I personally like the Springfield Armory M-14, but get match grade

You can't go wrong with a Remington 700, bull barrel w/ compensator

And in reality, if you don't have to have .308, you can get Colt, Bushmaster, Rock River or Armalite AR style rifles in .223 that will shoot great groups over 1000 yds. All of the above rifles will probably outperform you.

One of my personal favorite cartridges is the .22-250. You can get the 700 chambered in that, but it is a lighter bullet and more susceptible to wind.

Oh, Barrett .50 BMG FTMFW
Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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amp dsr-1 or if your really ballin this http://www.cheytac.com/M-200.html
Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Re: rifles

Here is my AR for sale:
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/468...r-15-tusr.html

Its good up to 500 yards with a decent shooter and factory ammo.

It can make it another 100 yards with hand loads... and even farther with a seasoned shooter.

I should say that buying a long distance rifle (500 - 1000 yards) doesn't mean you will be able to shoot that distance. I have been shooting for a long time and started with a match 22 up to 100 yards, and then I build this and a custom ER shaw M70 and shot at first up to 300 yards, and now I shoot 500. I am just starting to build a custom 300wssm for 600+ yards.

So I guess what I am getting at is the .223 is a great caliber for all distances under 500 yards, and its cheap to practice with.
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Stover that's a very nice AR. I'll been debating on whether or not I want to build one into a TUSR or not. I know if I had the money I'd be all over that.
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Thanks man,
Yeah its a great setup... offers a lot of options. Even though the gun has some weight to it, The .223 still allows it to be shot from the standing position as well. They aren't cheap to build, and even with the AR being one of the easiest rifles to build you will still get some headaches. Not to mention time lost by building it. Let me know if you end up being interested!
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Re: rifles

Originally Posted by Stover954rr
Here is my AR for sale:
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/468...r-15-tusr.html

Its good up to 500 yards with a decent shooter and factory ammo.

It can make it another 100 yards with hand loads... and even farther with a seasoned shooter.

I should say that buying a long distance rifle (500 - 1000 yards) doesn't mean you will be able to shoot that distance. I have been shooting for a long time and started with a match 22 up to 100 yards, and then I build this and a custom ER shaw M70 and shot at first up to 300 yards, and now I shoot 500. I am just starting to build a custom 300wssm for 600+ yards.

So I guess what I am getting at is the .223 is a great caliber for all distances under 500 yards, and its cheap to practice with.
Nice weapon!

Should be good for a might further than 500 yds though, right?

At the National service rifle match at Camp Perry they shoot .223 from prone pos. at 1000 yds - open sights!
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Re: rifles

Originally Posted by cashtown
Nice weapon!

Should be good for a might further than 500 yds though, right?

At the National service rifle match at Camp Perry they shoot .223 from prone pos. at 1000 yds - open sights!
haha thanks man. Yeah, like I said, it is limited by the shooter. I am saying that pretty much anyone who has shot a gun before can use mine out to 500yards with a little practice.... it can go father than that, but .223 is a light round (55 grains out of this gun) and it is effected by wind and other variables more and more as it increases distance.
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Re: rifles

I had a AR-15 magazine that had a bunch of different ARs. It had a 6.5 Grendel and a 6.8 SPC and one of them, I forgot which one could be converted with from a .223/5.56. Thats what I like about the AR, its so versatile.

Btw, Stover, you said your rifle is heavy. How heavy is it?
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Lazarus: The gun weighs 9.7 pounds with the bipod and scope. Not tooo heavy but definitely heavier than a stock A2.

Also for versital reasons they now make a bolt on .50 cal upper for the ar! Sick! A couple of my buddies just picked some up.
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Re: rifles

The .308 is a good long range round that is accurate as hell, thats the caliber military snipers use. However if you want something a little cheaper I have had pretty good luck with the .270 win. Im not sure what kind of range your looking for but if your looking for accuracy at a long range that has good penetration power for a good kill stay away from the .223 (ar-15).

I have a ar and although they are fund guns and effective within about 150 yards they arent that effective outside that range. Not saying you wont hit your target, it just wont have the penetration you need for a efective kill outside 150 yards.

The Savage has a sweet action from what I have heard from my dad and its a little cheaper than the model 700 (although I love the remington, the sendero models are sweet shooters)
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Re: rifles

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I have a ar and although they are fund guns and effective within about 150 yards they arent that effective outside that range. Not saying you wont hit your target, it just wont have the penetration you need for a efective kill outside 150 yards.
ahhh yes... exactly why our military uses 5.56 (.223) because all fire fights are within 150 yards

That is a completely retarted statement... a .223 not effective (able to kill) outside 150 yards?!!?! Now I have heard it all.
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Re: rifles

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ahhh yes... exactly why our military uses 5.56 (.223) because all fire fights are within 150 yards

That is a completely retarted statement... a .223 not effective (able to kill) outside 150 yards?!!?! Now I have heard it all.
The 5.56 is an inferior round to the 7.62x39.....deal with it.
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Re: rifles

Originally Posted by Stover954rr
ahhh yes... exactly why our military uses 5.56 (.223) because all fire fights are within 150 yards

That is a completely retarted statement... a .223 not effective (able to kill) outside 150 yards?!!?! Now I have heard it all.
The .223 was not designed to flat line someone, it was designed to exploit your enemies resources. It does more damage to your enemy to simply badly wound someone vs kill them.....when you wound them you take away resources ie medical help etc to get that one person better eventually over extending them....that is a better tactic in war. If you kill them they can just let them lie and continue in the fight.

The .223 is used in military for that purpose as well as it is an inexpensive round when compared to the others used. If the .223 was such an accurate long range DEADLY round then military snipers would use them inside 1000 yards..............but they dont
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haha you guys aren't paying attention to the statement I am protesting. I am saying that:

The .223 is "effective" over 150 yards

whether or not it the 7.62 is superior isn't the question and neither is what round the military uses for sniping.

flush you actually help make my point
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Re: rifles

Originally Posted by Stover954rr
haha you guys aren't paying attention to the statement I am protesting. I am saying that:

The .223 is "effective" over 150 yards

whether or not it the 7.62 is superior isn't the question and neither is what round the military uses for sniping.

flush you actually help make my point
I was simply stating that if he wanted a accurate long rang rifle with good stoping power to stay away from the .223. I didnt say you couldnt hit a target the size of a Volkswagen at 1000 yards, cause you can.....will it kill a game animal at 1000 yards with a 6in kill zone.........probably not!

I love my AR and as I said it is extremely fun to shoot....if I was doing an entry I cant think of anything else I would want by my side, besides maybe a full auto Benelli but for long rang accuracy with good penetration the .223 is not the round to use.
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