ive done both and to me mx is MUCH more demanding, i get way more tired running mx then xc, all the jumps and whoops take alot out of you, if your fast, its not as easy as you think.
im not saying that it doesnt take skill or u dont get tired running xc but......i think mx takes alot more endurnce then xc.

 

very good points I was not thinking about the wide open stuff but moto-x is still more skill

 

Exactly my thoughts, but I was just gunna leave my mouth shut, cause odviously someone doesn't really know what their talkin about.... Put a top of their class mx racer in a XC race, and they'd be the top of the XC class too.

Xidium - I think we get around 220-250 entries at Southwick. Lowest entry day of the year was I think about 175. Weather was questionalbe, and apparently all them 2strokers had their skirts on....

 

man that is what i am talking about the new 4 stroke is where it is !!! jsut sold my lone star 250r and got the yamaha and love it, ya southwick is tuff man that track beats the hell out of ya!! 220 to 250 that is good we are growing by the season also so we should catch up soon we hope www.tqra.com got to love that moto-x

 

ill keep my R, lol

 

ya I always said that too and it was a full lone star racing chassis full lrd motor but I after I put time on a full lone star eqip yamaha sorry but it had to go and after 7yrs in the pro class here in tx I know what is fast and these yamahas are fast as hellllllllll and handle great and jump even better! and ask yourself this if the 250 is still better than a new 4stroke then why did they make the new trx450r? and dont say legal reasons because they still make 2stroke bikes

 

no doubt the new yami is VERY fast i really like it as well,,,but.....have fun weldin that frame every few months, there is NO way that frame will hold up like my walsh or your lonestar for that matter.if your a pro and u want to continue to race pro, u have no choice but to ride a production 4 stroke.
think about it, it cost me about $15g's to build the walsh..done
not a new yami cost about $7g's just for the bike, then you got suspention, a arms, etc..........to make a full racer u need to replace just about the same amount of parts u did on your lonestar but your still left with a stock frame, and all the parts your buyin is gonna get you real close to $15g's.
not worth it to me.

as i said no doubt the yami is fast, but its not an all out racer like my full walsh bike or your yami, and u put a rider with the same amount of rider skills as me agaist me on my R and there is no way ill get smoked, it will be an even race.
the yami is fast but i would say my r is equally as fast. ask jones, he one the #1 plate in mx on an R again FULL race yami's and crf 450's.

and yes the reason they dont make 2 stroke quads like they used is emmision reans, its a fact.dirtbike racing gerates a ton of cash, that why they still make race dirtbikes.

 

i always thought that black backrounds were for the novice class, pro class runs blue, at least thats how it is everywer else...................

 

yes you are right but here in Texas as I said Pro class in Texas we do not have them in our pro class so when I say our pro class we have a mix of riders that run in it that range from people like Johnny Hale who is a pro at the nationals and Hunter Miller who runs the A class as also his little brother Cody and a few others so when I say that pro that is what I mean it is kinda like a pro-am class at the nats. And thank you for pointing that out and if you would like even tho i stopped running that class and went to the over 30 class we can still go for a spin and I bet my speed on the track is as fast as it needs to be but I cant lie it may only be for 3 laps these days haha man getting old sucks you just cant ride like them 18 year olds any more!

 

Alright finally someone that has some intellagence!! yes you have good points but as to say you spend 15g's after you fix one up is not right I bought mine for $6400 out the door and then got the front end for $600 pipe cost me $350 and the tires and wheels were around $600 so that brings me to around $7900 not bad for a race ready bike. And for the frame yes you are right it will not hold up as long but that is the thing you just have to deal with and I am sure that when mine starts to break it will be reinforced no problem. You are prolly right on the emissions but if they wanted too they could make them anyway it is just to much trouble

 

im talking about build new, you have to put them on some sort of equal ground as a start, but your case even proves my piont more!you spent $8g's and your bike is pretty much DONE full race bike, now to do the same thing with a new yami its gonna cost you almost $15g's.
also you make as many gussets as u want there is still no way its gonna be half as strong as a walsh or lsr.
dont for get its also possible (and dont think it i cant be done cause it can) that the pro frames my look stock as far as apearence but might be built with a stronger material then mild steel such as 4130.

 

That was a Yamaha I was talking about YFZ450 and I love it and as far as my 250r I had I put around $12000 in it, now for 4130 that is the only way to go for sure but they aint gonna let it happen in the production class tha whole purpose is to leval the playing feild right??? Now for competing on a 450 versus a 250 all but one guy ij our pro class down here has gone to the 4stroke and the guy on the 330 still gets blistard on the start and has to play catch up and out of every turn and long strait it just wont hang!! makes me sick to cuz I always said I will always have my R but they just are not gonna cut it in my opinon. and by the way thanks for giving me good conversation versus just bull$hittin

 

yep I am learning from the best of the best.... I just got home from CO 3am will be leaving in a few hours to go to practice in Nocona for the race on Sunday..... I heard a few ppl talk about the 6hr but I thought there had to be a team etc... I have races almost planned every weekend between mx and cross country... have one free weekend in Feb and I will be in Chi town .... hope to see you at the next race if you are not at this one on Sunday

 

XC is all endurance...
MX is all *****...
take your pic?

I dig em both:
http://atvstore.com/rides/suzukikid/4.jpg

 

 

quadracer041: where ub NJ?
Im in Nazareth / Allentown PA...

 

im in northern jersey, bergen county ot be exact
is that pic from rausch crrek??
i ride there sometimes

 

Hey quadracer041,

How is that njorv park? I have directions and everything to get there, but I have never gone....you think it would be worth the drive from Dover to go check it out? PM me when you get a chance bro....

 

I used to race 4stroke A for a year and a half, in the Mid atlantic series. Have a 440ex, only thing stock is the frame and steering stem. But got out of shape, plus it was real expensive racing 2-3 times a week without a heavy sponsor. So I took up wheelies.Its cheaper.
here is a pic of my 440 w/some 20s on it.

 

not really, its expensive to ride there, during the season its $70 for the day, but noe thats is slow its only $50, lol
its a rip off in my opinion, it would be worth it for a race cause then its only like $40