its aimed at SUV drivers for the most part. mine qualifies, i looked into it pretty hard, its just still not worth it to buy a brand new car.

 

i want the new tdi technology ... granted i could probably tune an older one to close to the same mpg ...

 

Yeah, but how much cheaper and how many miles are on it. I'd take the 15000 less miles for a couple grand. Plus the new TDI just came out this year.

 

truth. i know that idea was tossed around in congress, i wonder why it didnt happen

 

+1

guy from my work got a new kia for $4000 brand new - you actually drive off the lot with equity in your car instead of instant depreciation lol

 

I think that is the case.......

 

I guess it makes sense that they would source parts where they are made. I still don't think the foreign car companies need the support. I also think Chrysler was the only one making decent cars the last 10 years. There hasn't been a ford or gm sedan I would buy in a long time.

 

the amount of slack is sort of a personal opinion thing, how ever much you like. as long as theres SOME slack.

the only thing that beats up clutches is slipping them when you first take off from a dead stop. and revving the engine while at a stop with the clutch pulled in. wheelies dont hurt the clutch at all. climbs and mud only do if you slip the clutch a lot while doing it.

 

I never thought of it that way. Drive in with a pile of **** and come out with a brand new compact car for almost nothing. Good deal. I really like that new Kia Soul. Too bad the hatch area is so small.

 

its an interesting thing with that.. many foreign cars are built here, but the money still goes to a bank account in japan. but many domestic cars are built in mexico or canada now, but the money goes to a US account.

I dont know enough about it to say whats better

 

like covering the clutch in a car.....I should've known that......finding neutral on my bike is a pita but I will keep that in mind as well.....

 

It still stimulates the us economy and provides support to the suppliers ... the suppliers are probably a much larger employment base than you realize ... the foreign companies being here pretty much saved most of the suppliers when the big three almost destroyed them all with their bullshit management and union crap ... Kia and Hyundai are also offering 10 year bumper to bumper warranties - thats a pretty nice piece of mind - you can get a new car for $4000 and never have to worry about anything but general maintenance for 10 years

 

yep ... i would much rather support US workers and let the net profit go overseas ...

 

Yeah .. I haven't supported a lot of what the administration has done so far but I think this is really a good way for them to appropriate stimulus money ... it definitely has an instant positive efect for the average joe blow

 

I don't think those us workers need the support. I don't know a lot about it but you don't hear anything about the foreign car companies hurting. Are the suppliers having a rough time with this economy?

 

id prefer the couple grand difference for 15k miles. and its more than just a couple grand, thats the big point to me.

 

4 grand? holy ****. so im guessing 4500 for a clunker and some other rebates?

 

On a $25k car like the VW, which won't depreciate an incredible amount, the $4500 plus the couple grand is probably less than it will depreciate.

 

I cant even name a sedan GM makes anymore lol

I think chrysler makes the coolest cars too

 

They were definitely. Even when I left my last pace GM and Ford were really making it hard for them ... not just because of their own financial situation - but they operated like bullies, they said do it our way or we'll go somewhere else ... I still think they got what they deserved. Just my opinion based on what I saw and experienced after 5 years in the auto industry ... wish niner was hear to throw around another opinion ....