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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeM
when i cant smoke, i have trouble sleeping and i dont eat very much



which is exactly how i was before i started smoking it
Exactly ... so you aren't addicted you just positively benefit from the side effects .... I am of the opinion something that occurs naturally is much better to put in your body than tylenol pm or ambien or some other man made pill with many harmful side effects to make you sleep.
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whew. it took me straight to the test. nice.
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by scott3824
Exactly ... so you aren't addicted you just positively benefit from the side effects .... I am of the opinion something that occurs naturally is much better to put in your body than tylenol pm or ambien or some other man made pill with many harmful side effects to make you sleep.
may not be addiction but i'd say thats still dependence.
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LMAO!!! one of the "tests" was just reading a paragraph and saying i acknowledge that i read the paragraph. i acknowledged and this is what it said:

Congratulations, you have passed!
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I don't know, but congratulating me for that was just funny to me
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Originally Posted by scott3824
I never tried anything hard after trying weed.

Many people I know tried harder stuff first then never did anything again but still smoked.
Everyones different. I read online about how the nuerons in addicts brains fire different than someone who doesnt have an addictive personality or some **** like that lol. The fact that their nuerons fire differently make them addicts before they are addicted. So while some people can use and experiment recreationally, others cant. I know plenty of people who experimented and were fine and I know plenty of others who got hooked and died or are still hooked or in recovery.
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Trachito
may not be addiction but i'd say thats still dependence.
So what is it when you go to the doctor about something and they hand you a prescription to take indefinitely?
How is it any different than them handing out Proton Pump Inhibitors to all the people that get heartburn every day (caused by all the over the counter crap like Tylenol our society is force fed) and saying take this for the rest of your life (they depend on it to be able to live without acid reflux daily), never mind the side effects like malabsorption of nutrients, constipation, or causation of b12 deficiencies. If those same people could go buy a herbal or naturally occurring alternative without those side effects (since our bodies weren't made to process all those man made chemicals) why not take that route - seems like the more logical choice?
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by MikeM
where and what time?
bj's or plex around 7:30 or 8.
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Trachito
may not be addiction but i'd say thats still dependence.
+1 Its all in your head if you think you cant stop smoking weed. Ive stopped plenty of times and have a highly addictive personality.
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by scott3824
So what is it when you go to the doctor about something and they hand you a prescription to take indefinitely?
How is it any different than them handing out Proton Pump Inhibitors to all the people that get heartburn every day (caused by all the over the counter crap like Tylenol our society is force fed) and saying take this for the rest of your life (they depend on it to be able to live without acid reflux daily), never mind the side effects like malabsorption of nutrients, constipation, or causation of b12 deficiencies. If those same people could go buy a herbal or naturally occurring alternative without those side effects (since our bodies weren't made to process all those man made chemicals) why not take that route - seems like the more logical choice?
Youre getting high on weed - youre not getting high on heartburn meds. Granted youre still dependent on heartburn meds but not as a means to get high - as a means to not have heartburn. 2 different things IMO. How'd we get back on the drug debate lol. OMR's gonna love this
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by scott3824
So what is it when you go to the doctor about something and they hand you a prescription to take indefinitely?
How is it any different than them handing out Proton Pump Inhibitors to all the people that get heartburn every day (caused by all the over the counter crap like Tylenol our society is force fed) and saying take this for the rest of your life (they depend on it to be able to live without acid reflux daily), never mind the side effects like malabsorption of nutrients, constipation, or causation of b12 deficiencies. If those same people could go buy a herbal or naturally occurring alternative without those side effects (since our bodies weren't made to process all those man made chemicals) why not take that route - seems like the more logical choice?
well, lemme reword that. if u take something as a "hobby" and ur body starts aching and **** once u stop, then thats dependence, cuz if u'd never taken it before, then ur body would be fine.

i like weed. i no longer do it, but i have nothing against it. but i do believe that for many it's a gateway drug, that it does make some people lazy, etc. but, since that doesn't apply to everyone, i'm on the fence on this one. for me, i'm glad i did it during college. i needed a hard relaxer after working/studying so much, and exercise wasn't gonna cut it. i needed the green, baby.
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

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well, lemme reword that. if u take something as a "hobby" and ur body starts aching and **** once u stop, then thats dependence, cuz if u'd never taken it before, then ur body would be fine.
Got ya. Yeah I agree.

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i like weed. i no longer do it, but i have nothing against it. but i do believe that for many it's a gateway drug, that it does make some people lazy, etc. but, since that doesn't apply to everyone, i'm on the fence on this one. for me, i'm glad i did it during college. i needed a hard relaxer after working/studying so much, and exercise wasn't gonna cut it. i needed the green, baby.
I agree. But alcohol is the same way. Alcoholics don't function properly. There was a programmer at my last job that stank like a bottle every morning, he would get the shakes and get irritable and was very unproductive. There is a wide cross section of people that can be made for an argument both ways.
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

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Youre getting high on weed - youre not getting high on heartburn meds. Granted youre still dependent on heartburn meds but not as a means to get high - as a means to not have heartburn. 2 different things IMO. How'd we get back on the drug debate lol. OMR's gonna love this
I was just making a point based on his observation of dependence.
To make it more like apples to apples, how about cancer patients that are given oxycontin - one of the most addictive and dangerous synthetic drugs out there. Many patients feel marijuana is a much safer and desirable alternative.

Personally I think a lot of it has to do with drug companies not wanting to lose profits.

We can always take our discussions back to the OG PAR threads lol
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Re: Omr subcages !!!!!!!!!!

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I was just making a point based on his observation of dependence.
To make it more like apples to apples, how about cancer patients that are given oxycontin - one of the most addictive and dangerous synthetic drugs out there. Many patients feel marijuana is a much safer and desirable alternative.

Personally I think a lot of it has to do with drug companies not wanting to lose profits.

We can always take our discussions back to the OG PAR threads lol
I agree somewhat. Oxy's are highly addictive but theres a difference if youre taking them to get high or youre taking it to deal with pain from cancer. Granted that even tho u start taking them to deal with the cancer, you'll eventually catch a habit which sucks. I get what youre saying tho. We could take it to the PAR threads but I like when OMAR gets involved lol.
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i dont want to talk about drugs, i want to talk about wheelies
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