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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The cummins isx motors really pull hard , and are probably the nicest motors we have been getting lately . But our company is getting like California smog models , and you have to do a emmissions regeneration test to burn all the soot out of the exhaust .

It's fucked up cause , cummins has it to flash lights on the dash when its time , and the engine actually derates itself . And you are given a certain amount of time to do the test , or the engine will eventually stop running , making the driver possibly stuck somewhere on the road .

The test is fairly simple , but the process involves , leaving the truck run in nuetral at a somewhat high idle for almost 50 minutes , and the computer heats the exhaust system to like 1700 degrees !!!!
that just sounds dumb . . . wouldnt the exhaust would melt off i mean that or the turbo cease or something
Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:20 PM
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by NINER
The CR's are goos for around 5-600HP and 1000-1200 Ft/lbs with just a smarty tuner.
most new diesels have the capability to make huge power with a tune. the duramax's can make 800 hp+ for less then 1200 bucks

5 inch exhaust, lifter pump, efi live tune, egr block off and a fewother little things . . . now if only the allison could handle it and not **** out
Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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I think Neal just took down DZ!!!

I was letting this go since I did not handle your suspension Neal, but I do believe you are correct in that this was two sided. Since you both played a role, you both deserve a penalty.

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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by wheelburns
most new diesels have the capability to make huge power with a tune. the duramax's can make 800 hp+ for less then 1200 bucks

5 inch exhaust, lifter pump, efi live tune, egr block off and a fewother little things . . . now if only the allison could handle it and not **** out
I was about to say, the chevy's have a history of killing the transmissions if they aren't upgraded. The allison is the most overated transmission out there. Now the new asin is the ****.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by wheelburns
that just sounds dumb . . . wouldnt the exhaust would melt off i mean that or the turbo cease or something
You think i'm lying , but i'm not .

The slang term for this type of exhaust is called "Flame thrower" exhaust . Think about that for a second .
Old Jan 18, 2009 | 12:37 AM
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You think i'm lying , but i'm not .

The slang term for this type of exhaust is called "Flame thrower" exhaust . Think about that for a second .
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i hate clicking on pdf's
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regeneration can only really occur by itself if the driver is on the highway . And it takes a while to go thru a complete cycle .

If a driver does alot of stop and go driving , the system never has time to do a full regen , and the engine derates and throws up dash lights .

You then have to manually do the regen . .
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i hate clicking on pdf's
I'm sorry , but it gives a good description of the regen process .
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The idea is to turn carbon (exhaust soot) , into carbon dioxide , inside the exhaust , using a filter . And using heat to do it . Burning everything .
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The first 6.4 Fords had a shitty tune and would litterally shoot flames out the exhaust. That's why you see venturi or perforations on new diesel truck tail pipes to keep the tip cool.
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The first time i did a regen on a cummins , i did it in the shop . I put a rubber exhaust hose on the exhaust tip .

It went for about 5 minutes thru the first stages , before the rubber exhaust hose started melting and smoking from all the heat .
I'll never do that again

We have to run the engines outside for the tests .
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The first time i did a regen on a cummins , i did it in the shop . I put a rubber exhaust hose on the exhaust tip .

It went for about 5 minutes thru the first stages , before the rubber exhaust hose started melting and smoking from all the heat .
I'll never do that again

We have to run the engines outside for the tests .
Wow. That's all I can say.
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Actually , i really didn't put the hose on the exhaust tip .

I got a jack stand , and layed it on it's side . Then i put the hose on the jack stand and pointed it at , and near the tail pipe exhaust tip .

The ventilataion system in our shop is in the ground , and creates a vacuum thru the hose .

The heat coming out of the tailpipe was so hot , that when the exhaust fumes were coming out and being sucked into the hose , it was melting the end of the hose , and smoking .

The exhaust fumes even got the jackstand really really hot . That gives you an idea as how hot the program makes the exhaust heat up so much that it basically burns and vaporizes the carbon in the exhaust and pushes it out the tailpipe .

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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Actually , i really didn't put the hose on the exhaust tip . I got a jack stand , and layed it on it's side . Then i put the hose on the jack stand and pointed it at , and near the tail pipe exhaust tip .

The ventilataion system in our shop is in the ground , and creates a vacuum thru the hose .

The heat coming out of the tailpipe was so hot , that when the exhaust fumes were coming out and being sucked into the hose , it was melting the end of the hose , and smoking .
We had metal **** tips on our shop on Rotunda. (that's all the details you are getting) All I can say is I saw the new mustang GT500 that just dropped last winter. Sometimes i love my job.
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Re: Omr Subcage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

omr, is the man.
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I honestly didn't know gm was going with blue tec stuff . Is this new ?



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